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Andre Dupont

Can I get baby bonding PFL after quitting my job 2 weeks before birth?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a confusing situation and hoping someone can help clarify. I ended up leaving my job last month due to an extremely toxic work environment that was affecting my health (I was 38 weeks pregnant at the time). My daughter was born exactly 17 days after my last day. I had been at that company for over 5 years as a full-time employee with benefits. Now I'm wondering if I'm still eligible for California PFL baby bonding benefits? I know it's different from FMLA (which I no longer qualify for since I quit), but I've heard PFL might still be possible even after resignation if you paid into SDI? I'm getting conflicting info from friends and online sources. Has anyone navigated PFL after leaving their job shortly before birth? Any insight would be super appreciated as we're really counting on some income during these first weeks with the baby!

Yes, you can still apply for PFL baby bonding! California PFL is completely different from FMLA. As long as you were paying into SDI (State Disability Insurance) during your base period, you should qualify. When you leave work doesn't matter for PFL eligibility. The base period is usually 5-17 months before you file your claim. Since you worked full-time for 5 years and just recently quit, you definitely have enough wages in your base period. File your DE2508 form ASAP through the EDD website or by mail. Just remember, PFL gives you 8 weeks of partial wage replacement for bonding, which you can take all at once or split up, but you must use it within the first year of birth.

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Andre Dupont

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Thank you SO much for this information! Such a relief to hear. Do you know if I need any special documentation from my previous employer? Or just the standard birth certificate and my info?

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Jamal Wilson

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Be careful with the timing! I'm not 100% sure, but I think there might be an issue if you weren't actively employed when the baby was born. When I had my baby last year, the EDD rep told me you need to be employed or on SDI pregnancy disability leave when you start PFL baby bonding. Did you file for pregnancy disability leave after quitting but before giving birth?

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That's actually incorrect information. For PFL baby bonding in California, your employment status at the time of birth doesn't matter. You only need to have contributed to SDI during the base period (which is roughly 5-17 months before filing). Unlike FMLA, there's no requirement to be currently employed. The key thing is having those SDI contributions in your base period, which OP definitely has after 5 years of full-time work.

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Mei Lin

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You absolutely can file for PFL baby bonding! I was in almost the exact same situation in 2023. Left my toxic job about 3 weeks before my due date (couldn't take it anymore) and was approved for PFL with no issues. Here's what you need to do: 1. File form DE2508 through EDD website 2. Have your baby's birth certificate ready (they'll ask for a copy) 3. Provide your last employer's info and your last day worked The benefit is calculated based on your highest earning quarter in the base period. With 5 years at your previous job, you should qualify for the maximum weekly benefit (around $1,620 in 2025). One tip: EDD phone lines are impossible to get through if you have questions. I spent hours trying. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an EDD agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5. Totally worth it for peace of mind. Good luck and congrats on your baby!

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Andre Dupont

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This is EXACTLY what I needed to hear - someone who's been through the same thing! Thank you for the detailed steps. I'll start gathering my documents today. And thanks for the tip about getting through to EDD - those phone waits are brutal.

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im pretty sure u need 2 b emplouyed when u give birth 4 PFL? my sister tried to get it after quitting her job and got denied. maybe the rules r different now tho?

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The rules haven't changed - your sister's situation might have been different. Perhaps she hadn't contributed enough to SDI in her base period, or there might have been another issue with her claim. Employment status at birth is not a requirement for PFL baby bonding in California, only having contributed to SDI during the base period.

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GalacticGuru

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I was on the EDD website yesterday for my own PFL claim and I noticed they specifically state: "You don't need to be employed or looking for work to receive PFL benefits." So I think you're good!

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Andre Dupont

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That's great news! I've been so stressed about this. Going to apply today.

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Amara Nnamani

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The CA system is so confusing!!! I'm going through this nightmare right now too. Just a heads up - they might ask why you quit your job. I had to provide a statement explaining why I left (medical reasons in my case) because some reasons for quitting can affect eligibility. They took FOREVER to process my claim because of this - like 6 weeks! And trying to call them was a joke - always busy signals or 3+ hour waits. DON'T wait to file your claim! Do it NOW even if you're missing some documents. You can always submit those later. The longer you wait, the more complicated it gets.

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Andre Dupont

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Oh wow, I didn't realize they might question the reason for quitting. I have medical documentation from my OB about the stress affecting my pregnancy, so hopefully that helps if they ask. Thanks for the warning about delays!

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congrats on ur baby!! πŸŽ‰ my friend just had her baby and she said when she called EDD they told her u can get PFL as long as u paid SDI taxes in the last 18 months. so u should be fine since u worked for 5 yrs!

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Andre Dupont

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Thank you! πŸ’• That's reassuring to hear about your friend's experience!

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Wait I'm confused... You said you want to apply for FMLA in your post but then everyone's talking about PFL? Those are completely different things. FMLA is job protection through your employer (which you definitely don't qualify for since you quit). PFL is the CA wage replacement program. Just making sure you understand the difference?

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Andre Dupont

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Yes, sorry for the confusion in my original post! I meant PFL but mistakenly wrote FMLA. I understand I don't qualify for FMLA job protection since I quit. I'm specifically asking about the California PFL benefit for baby bonding. Thanks for pointing that out!

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Mei Lin

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One more thing I forgot to mention - make sure you have your ID.me account set up before trying to file your PFL claim online. The EDD website now requires this verification, and it can take a day or two to get approved. Would hate for you to have delays because of that technical step!

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Andre Dupont

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Thanks for the reminder! I actually created my ID.me account when I was looking into all this last week, so at least I have that step done. Appreciate you thinking of it though!

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Hi Andre! I went through something very similar last year - had to leave my job at 36 weeks due to severe pregnancy complications and stress. I was so worried about losing benefits, but PFL saved us financially during those early weeks with our baby. Just wanted to add a few things that helped me with my application: 1. Keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit - EDD has a habit of "losing" documents 2. Take screenshots of your online application confirmation pages 3. If you have any pregnancy-related medical records mentioning work stress, keep those handy in case they ask why you quit The whole process took about 3-4 weeks for me to get my first payment, but it was such a relief when it came through. You've got this! And congratulations on your daughter! πŸ‘Άβœ¨ Also, don't let anyone tell you that quitting disqualifies you - that's just not true for CA PFL. You earned those benefits by paying into SDI for 5 years!

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Thank you so much, Ethan! It's so comforting to hear from someone who went through almost the exact same situation. Your tips about keeping copies and screenshots are really helpful - I definitely don't want to deal with lost documents on top of everything else. It's such a relief to know that the 3-4 week timeline worked out for you. I was worried it might take months! And thank you for the congratulations - she's absolutely perfect and worth all this stress. πŸ’• I do have documentation from my OB about the work stress affecting my pregnancy, so I'll definitely keep that ready just in case. Thanks for the encouragement - really needed to hear that I earned these benefits!

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Aisha Hussain

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Hey Andre! I just wanted to chime in as someone who works in HR and deals with CA benefits regularly. You're absolutely eligible for PFL baby bonding benefits! The key thing everyone's mentioned is correct - you just need to have paid into SDI during your base period, which you definitely have with 5 years of full-time work. A few quick tips from what I've seen help people: - When you file the DE2508, make sure your baby's birth certificate is crystal clear (no blurry photos if submitting online) - Have your final paystub from your last employer ready - they sometimes ask for it to verify your wages - File as soon as possible! The 8-week bonding period starts ticking from when you could have first filed, not when you actually file The toxic work environment issue shouldn't affect your PFL claim at all - that's more of a concern for unemployment benefits. PFL is purely about your SDI contributions and the qualifying life event (your baby's birth). You made the right choice prioritizing your health and your baby's wellbeing. Good luck with the application process and enjoy this precious time with your little one! 🍼

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Ava Kim

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This is incredibly helpful, Aisha! As someone new to navigating CA benefits, it's really reassuring to hear from an HR professional. I didn't realize about the 8-week period starting from when I could have first filed - that's such an important detail! I definitely want to maximize my bonding time. I'll make sure to get a high-quality copy of the birth certificate and dig up my final paystub. It's such a relief to know that the work situation won't impact the PFL claim. I was really worried I'd somehow disqualified myself by leaving when I did. Thank you for the encouragement about prioritizing health - it was honestly the hardest decision I've ever made, especially being so close to my due date. But you're right, my daughter's wellbeing (and mine) had to come first. Really appreciate the professional insight! πŸ’™

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Congratulations on your baby girl! πŸŽ‰ As someone who went through a similar situation (left my job at 37 weeks due to harassment), I can confirm that you're absolutely eligible for PFL baby bonding benefits. The fact that you quit doesn't matter at all for California PFL - it's completely separate from job protection laws like FMLA. Since you worked full-time for 5 years and were paying into SDI, you definitely meet the requirements. Here's what made my process smoother: - Apply online through EDD's website with form DE2508 ASAP - Have your baby's birth certificate, Social Security number, and your final pay stub ready - Don't worry about providing explanations for why you quit unless they specifically ask - The weekly benefit amount is based on your highest quarter earnings in the base period, so with 5 years of work history you should get a decent amount It took about 4 weeks for my first payment to arrive, but it was such a lifesaver during those early bonding weeks. The toxic work environment actually sounds similar to what I dealt with - prioritizing your mental health and baby's wellbeing was absolutely the right call. You've got this! The application process is pretty straightforward once you get started. Enjoy these precious early days with your daughter! πŸ’•

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CosmicCaptain

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Thank you so much, Victoria! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who went through such a similar situation - leaving at 37 weeks due to harassment sounds awful, and I'm sorry you had to deal with that too. It really helps to know that someone else made it through this process successfully. Your timeline of 4 weeks for the first payment is really helpful for planning purposes. I've been so worried about the financial gap, but knowing there's light at the end of the tunnel makes it much more manageable. I'm definitely going to follow your advice and apply online today - I've been putting it off because I was scared I'd get denied, but all these responses have given me so much confidence. Having the birth certificate and final pay stub ready will definitely streamline things. Thank you for validating that leaving was the right choice. It was honestly one of the hardest decisions I've ever made, especially so close to my due date, but my health and my baby's wellbeing had to come first. Really appreciate the support and encouragement! πŸ’™

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Andre, I went through almost the exact same situation in 2022! I had to leave my job at 39 weeks due to severe workplace stress that was affecting my pregnancy, and I was terrified about losing benefits. But California PFL for baby bonding was a total lifesaver. The great news is that your employment status when baby was born doesn't matter at all for PFL eligibility. What matters is that you paid into SDI during your base period (which covers about 5-17 months before you file), and with 5 years of full-time work, you're definitely covered. Here's what I wish someone had told me before I applied: - File your DE2508 form ASAP through the EDD website (don't wait!) - Have your baby's certified birth certificate ready (not just a hospital record) - Keep your final paystub from your last job handy - The 8 weeks of bonding time can be taken all at once or intermittently within baby's first year My processing took about 3 weeks, and I received 60-70% of my regular wages. It was such a relief during those precious early weeks with my son. Don't let anyone tell you that quitting disqualifies you - that's simply not true for CA PFL. You paid into the system for 5 years and you've earned these benefits! Congratulations on your daughter and trust me, you made the right choice prioritizing both of your health! πŸΌπŸ’•

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Jade Lopez

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Thank you so much, Diego! Your story gives me so much hope - it's amazing how many people have gone through similar situations. I'm definitely going to file the DE2508 today like you and everyone else have suggested. I've been dragging my feet because I was so worried about getting denied, but all these responses have really boosted my confidence. I really appreciate the tip about having the certified birth certificate ready rather than just hospital records - I would have probably made that mistake! And knowing that the 8 weeks can be taken intermittently within the first year gives me some flexibility I didn't realize I had. The 60-70% wage replacement sounds like it will be a huge help during these early weeks. It's such a weight off my shoulders to know that leaving that toxic environment won't cost us these benefits that I worked for over 5 years to earn. Thank you for the congratulations and for sharing your experience! Stories like yours are exactly what I needed to hear. πŸ’•

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Nia Thompson

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Hey Andre! I actually just went through this exact situation last month - had to leave my job at 36 weeks due to a hostile work environment and was panicking about benefits. I can confirm that you're absolutely eligible for PFL baby bonding! The key thing is that California PFL is totally separate from your employment status at the time of birth. As long as you contributed to SDI during your base period (which you definitely did with 5 years of full-time work), you qualify for the full 8 weeks of partial wage replacement. I filed my DE2508 about 2 weeks after my baby was born and got approved within about 3 weeks. The weekly benefit amount was calculated based on my earnings from when I was still working, so leaving early didn't hurt that at all. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of everything - screenshots of my application, copies of all documents I submitted, etc. EDD can be slow to respond if there are any issues, so having everything organized made the process much smoother. You absolutely made the right call leaving that toxic environment - your health and your baby's wellbeing come first! Don't let anyone make you feel bad about that decision. You earned these benefits fair and square. Congrats on your daughter and good luck with the application! πŸ’•

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Nia, thank you so much for sharing your recent experience! It's such a relief to hear from someone who literally just went through this same situation last month. The fact that you got approved within 3 weeks gives me a realistic timeline to expect. Your advice about keeping detailed records is really smart - I can already tell from everyone's responses that EDD can be a bit disorganized, so having everything documented will definitely save me headaches later. I'm going to start a folder today with screenshots and copies of everything I submit. It really means a lot to hear that you think I made the right call leaving. I've been second-guessing myself constantly, wondering if I should have just stuck it out for two more weeks. But you're absolutely right - our health and our babies' wellbeing have to come first. Thank you for that validation! I'm feeling so much more confident about applying now after hearing all these success stories. Going to get my documents together and file today. Congratulations on your baby too! πŸ’•

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Andre, I'm so glad you asked this question! I was in a very similar boat last year - had to leave my job at 37 weeks due to severe workplace stress and discrimination that was literally making me sick. I was absolutely terrified that I'd lose all my benefits by quitting so close to my due date. But here's the thing - California PFL is completely separate from your employment status! The only thing that matters is whether you paid into SDI during your base period, and with 5 years of full-time work, you're golden. I got my full 8 weeks of benefits at about 65% of my previous wages, and it was such a lifesaver during those early bonding weeks. A few things that helped me navigate the process: - Don't overthink the reason you quit - PFL doesn't care about why you left, only that you contributed to SDI - File online through EDD's website ASAP with form DE2508 - Have your baby's birth certificate, SSN, and last paystub ready - Take screenshots of everything you submit (EDD's system can be glitchy) The whole process took about 4 weeks from application to first payment. I know it feels scary applying when you're not sure about eligibility, but trust me - you've earned these benefits! You prioritized your health and your baby's wellbeing, which was absolutely the right choice. Congratulations on your daughter! These early weeks are so precious, and PFL will help you focus on bonding instead of stressing about finances. You've got this! πŸ’•

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience, Samantha! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from yet another person who went through this exact situation. The discrimination aspect sounds awful - I'm so sorry you had to deal with that while pregnant. Your point about PFL not caring why I left really puts my mind at ease. I've been so worried that somehow my reason for quitting would disqualify me, but hearing it directly from people who've been through it helps enormously. I love your advice about not overthinking it - I definitely have a tendency to spiral and assume the worst case scenario! Getting 65% of your previous wages for 8 weeks sounds like it will make such a difference during these early bonding weeks. Thank you for the congratulations and for emphasizing that I made the right choice. Sometimes I still second-guess leaving so close to my due date, but you're absolutely right - our health had to come first. I'm going to follow everyone's advice and apply today! Really appreciate you taking the time to share your story - it means more than you know! πŸ’•

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Alma Leon

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Hey andre, so I am in the same situation as you but im quitting before my disability ends because they want me to go back to work but I am in a very stressful PP state that is not safe for me to go back to work and my disability will no longer be extended and I exhausted my FMLA so I have no job protection anymore. According to them, if I don't go back after my disability ends I will lose my job. So I plan to quit and then take my baby bonding. Did they ask you for any proof of employment or why did you quit?

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Hi Alma! I actually haven't applied yet (I'm planning to do it today based on all the helpful advice in this thread), but from what everyone here has shared, it sounds like EDD typically doesn't ask for proof of employment status or reasons for quitting when it comes to PFL baby bonding claims. Several people mentioned that PFL is completely separate from your employment situation - it's only based on whether you paid into SDI during your base period. A few folks did mention that EDD might ask why you quit in some cases, but it doesn't seem to be a standard requirement and doesn't affect eligibility. Your situation with exhausted FMLA and disability ending sounds really stressful - I'm sorry you're dealing with that on top of everything else postpartum brings. From what I've learned from this thread, quitting shouldn't affect your PFL baby bonding eligibility at all since you've been paying into SDI. I'd definitely recommend reading through all the responses here - there's so much helpful information from people who've actually gone through similar situations. It sounds like we're both going to be just fine with PFL! Good luck with your application! πŸ’•

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Hi Andre! Thanks for responding even though you haven't applied yet - it's really helpful to connect with someone going through the exact same thing! I've been reading through all these responses too and it's such a relief to hear from so many people who successfully got PFL after leaving their jobs. Your situation leaving at 38 weeks due to toxic work environment sounds so similar to what I'm dealing with - it's awful that we have to choose between our health and financial security, but it sounds like PFL will help bridge that gap. The fact that so many people here confirmed it doesn't matter why we quit or our employment status at birth gives me a lot more confidence. I think I'm going to apply this week too! It's scary not knowing for sure, but all these success stories are really encouraging. Thanks for taking the time to respond and good luck with your application today! Maybe we can update each other on how it goes? 🀞

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Daniel White

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Andre, I'm so glad you posted this question because I was literally in the exact same situation last year! I had to leave my job at 39 weeks due to an incredibly toxic manager who was causing me panic attacks daily. My son was born 10 days after my last day of work. I was absolutely terrified that I'd ruined everything by quitting so close to birth, but California PFL saved us! You are 100% eligible for baby bonding benefits because it's only based on your SDI contributions during the base period - not your employment status when baby arrives. Here's what I learned going through the process: - File form DE2508 online ASAP (don't wait any longer!) - You'll get partial wage replacement for up to 8 weeks of bonding time - With 5 years of full-time work, you definitely have enough SDI contributions - They don't care why you quit - PFL is separate from unemployment benefits My claim was approved in about 3 weeks and I received around 60% of my previous salary. It was such a lifesaver during those precious early weeks with my baby. You made the absolute right choice prioritizing your health and your daughter's wellbeing over a toxic work environment. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty about that decision - you earned these benefits through years of SDI contributions! Apply today and enjoy this special bonding time with your little girl! πŸ’•

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Natalia Stone

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Thank you so much, Daniel! Your story is almost identical to mine - it's incredible how toxic workplaces seem to target pregnant women right when we're most vulnerable. Panic attacks daily sounds absolutely horrible, and I'm so sorry you had to endure that. It's such a relief to hear that your claim was approved in 3 weeks and you got 60% of your salary - that timeline and benefit amount will make such a difference for us. I've been so anxious about the financial gap, but knowing it worked out for someone in the exact same situation gives me so much peace of mind. Your reminder that I earned these benefits through years of SDI contributions really hits home. I keep second-guessing myself and feeling guilty about leaving, but you're absolutely right - I paid into this system for 5 years specifically for situations like this! I'm definitely applying today - this thread has given me all the confidence I needed. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and for the encouragement about prioritizing health over toxic work environments. It means the world! πŸ’•

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Ethan Clark

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Andre, I just wanted to add my voice to all the encouraging responses you've received! I work as a benefits coordinator for a large company in California, and I can confirm that everyone giving you advice about PFL eligibility is absolutely correct. You are definitely eligible for baby bonding PFL benefits! The key factors are: 1. You paid into SDI during your base period (βœ“ - 5 years of full-time work) 2. You have a qualifying family event (βœ“ - birth of your daughter) 3. You're seeking bonding time within baby's first year (βœ“) That's it! Your employment status at birth, reason for leaving, or current job situation are completely irrelevant for PFL claims. A few professional tips to make your process smoother: - Apply online at EDD's website with form DE2508 - Submit clear, legible copies of all documents - Keep records of everything you submit - Don't delay - the sooner you apply, the sooner benefits can start I see these claims processed regularly, and yours is a textbook case for approval. With your work history, you should receive a good weekly benefit amount for all 8 weeks of bonding time. You made the right choice prioritizing your health during pregnancy. Now focus on enjoying these precious early weeks with your daughter while PFL provides the financial support you've earned! Congratulations! 🍼

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Thank you so much, Ethan! Having confirmation from someone who works as a benefits coordinator is incredibly reassuring. It's so helpful to have the professional perspective that this is a "textbook case for approval" - I was getting so anxious reading conflicting information online, but hearing it directly from someone who processes these claims regularly puts my mind completely at ease. Your breakdown of the three key factors is perfect and so clear. I definitely meet all the requirements, and it's great to know that all the other stuff I was worried about (employment status, reason for leaving) truly doesn't matter. I really appreciate the professional tips too - I'm going to make sure to submit everything clearly and keep detailed records like you suggested. The reminder about not delaying is noted - I'm definitely applying today after all the encouragement from this amazing community! Thank you for the congratulations and for taking the time to share your professional expertise. It means so much to have that level of confirmation! πŸ’•

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Andre, I just wanted to add one more encouraging voice to this amazing thread! I went through almost the exact same situation in early 2024 - had to leave my job at 38 weeks due to severe workplace harassment that was causing me daily stress and affecting my pregnancy. My baby was born 15 days after my last day of work. I was absolutely panicked about losing benefits, but California PFL for baby bonding came through for us! The application process was straightforward once I stopped overthinking it: - Filed DE2508 online about 2 weeks after birth - Provided baby's birth certificate and my final paystub - Never had to explain why I quit (they didn't ask) - Got approved in about 4 weeks - Received roughly 65% of my previous wages for the full 8 weeks The financial relief was incredible during those precious early bonding weeks. What really struck me reading through all these responses is how common this situation apparently is - so many of us have had to make the difficult choice to leave toxic work environments during pregnancy. You absolutely made the right decision prioritizing your health and your daughter's wellbeing. After 5 years of paying into SDI, you've more than earned these benefits! Don't let anyone make you feel guilty about accessing support you literally paid for. Apply today and then focus on enjoying this special time with your little girl. You've got this! πŸ’•βœ¨

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Dylan Evans

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Thank you so much for adding your voice to this thread! It's honestly incredible how many people have gone through this exact same situation - it really shows that toxic workplaces targeting pregnant women is way more common than I realized. I'm so sorry you had to deal with harassment on top of everything else pregnancy brings. Your timeline and experience are so reassuring - 4 weeks for approval and 65% wage replacement for the full 8 weeks sounds like exactly what we need during these early bonding weeks. The fact that they never asked you to explain why you quit is such a relief too, since I've been stressing about that. Reading through everyone's responses today has been such an emotional rollercoaster - going from terrified I'd ruined everything to feeling confident and supported. It really means a lot to hear from so many people who not only went through the same thing but took the time to share their experiences to help others. You're absolutely right that after 5 years of paying into SDI, I've earned these benefits! I'm done feeling guilty about accessing support I literally paid for. Going to apply right now and then focus on enjoying these precious early days with my daughter. Thank you for the encouragement! πŸ’•

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Jacinda Yu

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Andre, I'm so glad you found this supportive community! Reading through all these responses has been really heartwarming - it's amazing how many people have shared their similar experiences to help you feel confident about your situation. I just wanted to add that as someone who's been following CA benefits discussions for a while, your case is absolutely straightforward for PFL approval. With 5 years of SDI contributions, you're exactly the type of person this benefit was designed to support. The fact that so many people here went through nearly identical situations (leaving toxic workplaces in late pregnancy) and all got approved should give you complete peace of mind. It sounds like you've got all your documents ready and a clear plan to apply today - that's perfect! Enjoy these precious early weeks with your daughter, and don't spend another minute worrying about eligibility. You've earned this support through years of contributions, and now it's time to focus on what matters most - bonding with your little one! Congratulations! πŸ’•πŸŽ‰

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Thank you so much, Jacinda! This community has been absolutely incredible - I came here feeling so scared and uncertain, and now I feel completely confident about moving forward with my PFL application. You're absolutely right that reading through everyone's similar experiences has been so reassuring. It's amazing how this thread turned into this wonderful support network of people who've all navigated the same challenging situation. I honestly had no idea how common it was to have to leave toxic work environments during pregnancy. I do have all my documents ready and I'm about to submit my application right now! After hearing from so many people who went through identical situations and got approved, I'm done worrying about eligibility. Thank you for the reminder to focus on what really matters - these precious early bonding weeks with my daughter. She's absolutely perfect and worth every bit of stress this situation has caused. I'm so grateful for everyone who took the time to share their experiences and help a newcomer navigate this process! πŸ’•

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