Will temporary overtime pushing us over CalWORKs IRT affect benefits during recertification?
So stressed right now! My husband had to work crazy overtime these past 2 weeks (plus got a small bonus) and it pushed us over our Income Reporting Threshold by like $300. This isn't his normal income AT ALL - his work is super seasonal with slow periods and then everyone working like crazy to catch up. We're literally just trying to catch up on bills from when work was slow last month. My recertification interview is scheduled for 8/6 and I'm freaking out that they'll cut our Cash Aid because of this one-time boost. Does the county even look at the fact that his income constantly changes? Or will they just see this one higher check and reduce our benefits permanently? We still really need the help - his hours could drop again next month! Anyone dealt with going over IRT right before recertification?
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Ravi Choudhury
You need to report this ASAP since you went over IRT! Don't wait for recert. They'll find out anyway when you bring income verification and you could get overpayment. I learned this hard way last year. Fill out SAR 3 form right now!!!
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Isabella Silva
•Omg I didn't know about SAR 3!! Is that something I can do online through BenefitsCal or do I have to go into the office? I'm worried they're going to cut us off completely.
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Freya Andersen
Going over your IRT does need to be reported within 10 days of when it happens - that's the rule regardless of why your income increased. During your recertification, they'll look at your husband's income for the SAR period to determine your ongoing eligibility and benefit amount. The good news is that for your recertification, they should take into account that his income fluctuates. Make sure you explain the seasonal nature of his work and bring documentation showing how his income has varied over the past few months. They should use a reasonably anticipated income calculation rather than just the highest month. When you report going over IRT now, your benefits may be reduced for the remaining months of your current certification period, but at recertification, they can be adjusted based on what's reasonably anticipated going forward.
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Isabella Silva
•Thank you!!! So should I bring his paystubs from the past 3-4 months to show how much it varies? Or would a letter from his employer about the seasonal nature help? I'm just worried they'll think this sudden jump is permanent.
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Omar Farouk
mine flucuates to i work at amazon. they do take it into consideration!!! bring ALL the paystubs you can. my worker looks at my average income from past 3 months for recert. the more proof you have the better!!!
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CosmicCadet
•This is correct, but I want to clarify something important - they will use the concept of "reasonably anticipated income" for your recertification. This means they're supposed to look at what you can realistically expect to earn in the upcoming months, not just what you earned in the past. If your husband's overtime was truly a one-time thing, make sure to get documentation about that. A letter from his employer confirming the temporary nature of the overtime/bonus would be extremely helpful. Also bring paystubs from the past 6 months if possible to show the pattern of fluctuation. Most importantly, don't miss reporting the IRT change now - that's separate from recertification and must be done within 10 days of receiving the income that put you over the threshold.
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Chloe Harris
THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR REASONS!! This happened to me and my benefits got cut by more than half even though I explained it was just a one-time thing. County offices only look at the numbers not your situation. They'll probably count it as your new income level and you'll be stuck with reduced benefits until you can prove lower income for 2-3 months. The system is designed to cut people off!!!
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Diego Mendoza
•This isn't completely accurate. CalWORKs rules specifically state they should use reasonably anticipated income for the upcoming SAR period. One-time income shouldn't affect ongoing benefits if you can document it properly. Sometimes workers make mistakes though, so you might need to request a hearing if they calculate it wrong.
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CosmicCadet
You absolutely must report exceeding the IRT within 10 days - that's non-negotiable. Use the SAR 3 form or report it through BenefitsCal. For your upcoming recertification, here's what you need to bring: 1. All paystubs from the last 3-6 months showing income fluctuation 2. A letter from his employer explaining the seasonal nature of the work if possible 3. Documentation showing the bonus was one-time 4. Any other proof of why his income varies (seasonal work schedules, etc.) When they calculate benefits at recertification, they're supposed to use what's called "reasonably anticipated income" - meaning what you can realistically expect to earn in the upcoming months, not just what you earned in the past month. Be very clear with your worker about the fluctuating nature of his work. If you have trouble reaching your CalWORKs worker to discuss this, you might want to try Claimyr (claimyr.com). It's a service that helps you get through to CalWORKs phone lines without the endless wait. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE - it saved me hours of frustration when I had a similar urgent situation with reporting income changes.
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Anastasia Popova
•never heard of that service but sounds interesting, has anyone actually used it? hate spending hours on hold just to get disconnected 😡
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Diego Mendoza
I used it when I needed to talk to someone at my county office about a similar income reporting issue last month! Seriously saved me from missing another day of work sitting on hold. The service calls you back when they have a worker on the line.
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Isabella Silva
•Thank you for the suggestion! I'll look into it if I can't get through tomorrow. My last attempt I was on hold for 2 hours before getting disconnected. So frustrating.
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Omar Farouk
wait i'm confused, isn't CalWORKs recertification once a year??? why r u doing it so soon??
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Freya Andersen
•CalWORKs requires a SAR 7 report every six months and a full recertification (SAWS 2) annually. Sounds like OP is due for their annual recertification, which is more detailed than the mid-year report.
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Isabella Silva
Update! I was able to report going over IRT online through BenefitsCal (didn't know I could do that!). My worker called me back this morning and was actually really helpful. She said my benefits might be reduced for July/August but at recertification they'll recalculate based on his expected future income. She told me to bring 3 months of paystubs and a note from his employer about the seasonal nature if possible. Thanks everyone for your help! I'm still nervous about the recertification but at least I know what to expect now.
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CosmicCadet
•That's great news! Sounds like you have a good worker who understands the rules. Make sure you're super prepared for your recertification interview with all the documentation we discussed. Good luck!
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Yara Elias
So glad you got through to your worker and that she was helpful! It sounds like you're in much better hands than some of us have experienced. The fact that she proactively explained how the recertification will work differently from the temporary reduction is really encouraging. Just wanted to add - when you get that letter from your husband's employer about the seasonal work, try to get them to be as specific as possible about the typical work patterns (like "busy season typically runs X months with overtime, followed by Y months of reduced hours"). The more detailed documentation you have about the cyclical nature of his income, the stronger your case will be during recertification. You've got this! Sounds like you're doing everything right by staying on top of the reporting requirements and gathering the right documentation.
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Sasha Reese
•This is such great advice about getting specific details in the employer letter! I'm definitely going to ask his boss to include the typical seasonal patterns. It sounds like having that kind of detailed documentation could really make the difference in how they calculate our ongoing benefits. Really appreciate everyone's help - this community has been a lifesaver during such a stressful situation!
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Daniel White
Really glad to see this worked out for you! Your experience shows how important it is to report IRT changes promptly - waiting could have made things much worse. For anyone else reading this thread, Isabella's situation is a perfect example of why documenting fluctuating income is so crucial. One thing I'd add - if your husband's employer is hesitant about writing a letter, you could also ask them to just verify on company letterhead that his position involves seasonal overtime periods. Sometimes employers are more comfortable with simple verification rather than detailed explanations. Also keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit - I always make duplicates of all documentation before my appointments just in case something gets lost in their system. Hope your recertification goes smoothly! You're clearly on the right track with all the preparation you're doing.
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