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Brian Downey

P-EBT 4.0 in California - one-time payment or monthly benefit? New immigrant family confused

Our family moved to Irvine from overseas about 2 months ago, and last month we unexpectedly received P-EBT 4.0 cards in the mail for our children. After some research I understand it's related to school meals, but I'm still confused about whether this is recurring or a one-time payment. We used the benefits already, but checking our balance shows no new deposits (called the P-EBT hotline to verify). Should we keep the cards for future benefits or is this just a single payment? I've tried asking at my kids' school but the front office staff wasn't sure either. Anyone familiar with how the P-EBT 4.0 program works for new residents? Thanks for any guidance!

P-EBT 4.0 is definitely a one-time issuance, not monthly like regular CalFresh benefits. It was created to help families who had children eligible for free or reduced-price school meals during the 2022-2023 school year. The amount depends on your child's school attendance and eligibility status. Keep the card though! If there are any future P-EBT programs (which happened during COVID but is less common now), they'll typically load new benefits onto the same card. Also, if there was any kind of error in your benefit calculation, any corrections would be added to the existing card.

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Thank you for clarifying! That makes sense now. The card came with around $400 per child which seemed like a lot for a monthly benefit. So basically it's a one-time pandemic-related benefit that's still being distributed? We'll definitely keep the cards just in case.

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welcome to america!! p-ebt isnt the same as calfresh btw. if ur family needs ongoing food assistance u should apply for calfresh which IS monthly!! the income limits are pretty generous especially for families w/kids. u can apply online thru benefitscal.com or at the county office

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Oh! I didn't realize there was a difference - I thought P-EBT was just the name of the program. I'll look into CalFresh right away. Is the application process difficult? We have our green cards and have been here almost 3 months now.

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As others mentioned, P-EBT 4.0 is a single payment. But since you mentioned being new to the US, I wanted to add that you should definitely apply for CalFresh if you need ongoing food assistance. Many immigrant families don't realize they qualify, especially if the children are US citizens or legal permanent residents. The income limit for a family of 4 in 2025 is around $3,750 gross monthly income, and the application requires verification of identity, residency, income, and immigration status. You'll also need to complete a phone interview, but those can be hard to schedule because county offices are overwhelmed. I recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to connect with a CalFresh worker faster. They have a service that gets you through to the county phone systems without the typical 2+ hour wait. There's a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8. It saved me days of frustration when I was trying to apply.

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This!!! The county phones are IMPOSSIBLE lately. I spent 3 days trying to get through for my recertification interview before using that service. Literally changed in 10 minutes what I couldn't accomplish in 3 days lol

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P-EBT is definitely a one-time thing based on the previous school year. The amount is calculated based on how many days your kids were either absent due to COVID or had virtual school days. That's why some families get different amounts than others. BUT IMPORTANT - if you're new to the country, make sure your kids are signed up for free/reduced lunch at school! That's how you qualify for any future P-EBT programs if they happen again, PLUS it helps your kids get meals at school. The form is super simple and many Irvine schools have income limits that might surprise you - a family of 4 can make up to like $55K annually and still qualify!

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We did fill out those forms when we enrolled the kids! The school counselor mentioned it was important. I guess that's how we qualified for these cards too. I'll double check with the school that everything is properly registered in their system.

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Am I the only one confused by how new immigrants qualify for P-EBT 4.0 if it's based on the 2022-2023 school year and OP said they just moved here 2 months ago??? Not trying to be rude but something doesn't add up here. How would their kids have been in school here last year to qualify?

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yeah i was thinking the same thing! the pEBT 4.0 is specifically for kids who were in school during the specific eligibility periods. if they just moved here they wouldn't have qualified based on last years attendance?

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You both make a fair point. Let me clarify - we moved to Irvine 2 months ago, but we were actually in Los Angeles for about 8 months before that with family while getting settled. The kids started school in January 2023 in LA, then we moved to our own place in Irvine recently. Sorry for the confusion!

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Since you're new to the US benefit system, I should mention that P-EBT uses the same type of EBT card as CalFresh, but they're completely different programs. P-EBT is administered by CDSS and CDE together, while CalFresh is your regular monthly food assistance program (what used to be called food stamps). As others mentioned, definitely apply for CalFresh if you need ongoing food assistance. The application process involves: 1. Submit application through BenefitsCal.com 2. Submit verification documents (ID, residency, income, etc.) 3. Complete a phone interview 4. Receive benefits on an EBT card (different from your P-EBT card) Once approved, you'll receive monthly deposits and will need to submit a SAR7 report every 6 months and complete recertification annually. The process can be confusing for anyone, but especially for newcomers to the system!

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Thank you for this detailed explanation! I've been mixing up all these different benefit types and cards. We'll definitely apply for CalFresh - didn't realize our income might qualify. Is the SAR7 report complicated to fill out? We're still learning to navigate all the American paperwork systems.

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btw once u get calfresh theres other cool benefits that come with it!! like discount amazon prime, cheap internet, free museum passes, and farmers market match programs where they double ur benefits when u buy fresh fruits and veggies!!

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Don't forget the free annual national park pass!! That's worth like $80 right there!

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Just a warning - make sure you're actually eligible before applying. There's a 5-year waiting period for most immigrants to get CalFresh unless you have refugee/asylee status or have children who are US citizens. The rules are super complicated and depending on your status, applying too early could potentially cause immigration issues later. Not trying to scare you, but a lot of people don't know this!

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This is partially correct but needs clarification. The 5-year bar applies to adults with LPR (green card) status, but there are MANY exceptions: • Children under 18 with LPR status don't have the 5-year wait • If there are US citizen children in the household, they can receive benefits even if parents cannot • Refugees, asylees, trafficking victims, and certain other humanitarian immigrants are exempt • Some LPRs with 40 qualifying work quarters are exempt • Military members and their families are exempt And importantly - receiving CalFresh for eligible household members does NOT trigger public charge concerns under current law. This was clarified in 2021 when the Trump-era rules were reversed.

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Thank you both for this information! We do have green cards (employment-based), but our children were born abroad. I'll make sure to mention our immigration status when applying so they can determine if we're eligible yet. We don't want to do anything that could cause problems.

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Welcome to California! Just wanted to add that if you're unsure about your eligibility, you can always contact an immigration attorney or a nonprofit legal aid organization before applying. Many counties also have CalFresh outreach coordinators who specialize in helping immigrant families navigate the eligibility requirements safely. In Orange County specifically, you might want to reach out to the Orange County Community Resources office - they have staff who are trained on the intersection of immigration status and benefits eligibility. They can do a confidential pre-screening to help you understand your options without filing an actual application first. Better to be cautious and get proper guidance than to worry about potential issues later!

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This is such helpful advice! I wasn't even aware that pre-screening was an option. That sounds like exactly what we need - getting proper guidance before potentially making any mistakes. Do you happen to know if the Orange County Community Resources office offers services in languages other than English? My English is pretty good but for something this important I'd feel more comfortable discussing the details in our native language if possible. Thank you for pointing us in the right direction!

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Yes, Orange County Community Resources does offer multilingual services! They have interpreters available for most major languages and can also provide translated materials. When you call to schedule your pre-screening appointment, just let them know what language you'd prefer and they'll arrange for an interpreter to be present. This is especially important for immigration-related benefit questions since the terminology can be very technical. You can reach them at (714) 480-2900. Good luck with everything - sounds like you're being very thoughtful about navigating this process safely!

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Just wanted to share some additional resources that might help as you navigate this! Since you're in Irvine, the Irvine Community Services Department also has a CalFresh outreach program - they often have bilingual staff and can help walk you through the application process. They're located at the Irvine Civic Center. Also, many libraries in Orange County (including Irvine's) have computers you can use to apply online if you need help with the technology side of things, and librarians are usually great at helping people navigate government websites. The University Park Library branch is really close to many of the newer immigrant communities in Irvine. One more tip - if you do end up applying for CalFresh, try to submit your application early in the month. Benefits are processed faster at the beginning of each month, and if approved, you'll get your benefits prorated from your application date. Welcome to the community, and don't hesitate to ask more questions - we're all here to help each other!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you so much for taking the time to share all these local resources! I had no idea the library could help with the application process. That's actually perfect since we're still getting familiar with navigating government websites. The University Park Library is walking distance from our apartment, so I'll definitely check that out. And good tip about applying early in the month - I wouldn't have thought of that timing aspect. Everyone in this community has been so welcoming and helpful. Really appreciate all the guidance as we figure out how everything works here!

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