Who is CHTD company UCC filing - debtor name verification issues
Running into a wall here with a UCC search and hoping someone can help decode this. Found multiple UCC-1 filings against "CHTD COMPANY" but can't figure out what this entity actually is or if the debtor name is accurate. The filings show different variations - some say "CHTD COMPANY LLC" others just "CHTD COMPANY" and one shows "CHTD CO." All have different filing numbers but similar collateral descriptions (equipment and inventory). This is for a lien search on a potential acquisition target and I need to verify if these are all the same entity or separate companies. The SOS database isn't giving me clear corporate records for any of these variations. Has anyone dealt with CHTD company UCC filings before? Worried about missing liens if the debtor names don't match exactly with what we're acquiring. The target company uses "CHTD Company, LLC" in their operating agreement but these UCC filings predate that formation. Need to figure out if these are enforceable liens or filing errors.
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Yara Nassar
This sounds like a classic debtor-name consistency issue. CHTD could be an acronym or abbreviation that the original filers used incorrectly. Have you checked the corporate records in the state where these UCCs were filed? Sometimes companies change their legal names or entity types over time, and old UCC filings don't automatically update. You'll need to trace the entity history to see if all these variations refer to the same debtor.
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StarGazer101
•Exactly this. I see this all the time with abbreviated company names. The secured party probably filed using whatever name was on the loan docs without verifying the exact legal entity name.
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Keisha Jackson
•But wouldn't variations like "CHTD CO." vs "CHTD COMPANY" potentially invalidate the UCC filing if the debtor name is seriously misleading?
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Paolo Romano
Had a similar nightmare with debtor name variations last year. You really need to dig into the corporate formation documents and any name change filings. CHTD might stand for something specific in your industry. Also check if there were any mergers or acquisitions that could explain the different entity types (LLC vs regular company). The key is whether a reasonable searcher would find all the relevant filings when searching under the correct legal name.
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Amina Diop
•This is why I always run multiple search variations when doing lien searches. Can't trust that everyone filed correctly.
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Connor Murphy
•That's what I'm worried about - missing something because of name variations. The acquisition is supposed to close next month and I need to be sure about these liens.
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Oliver Schmidt
I actually found a tool that helps with exactly this kind of situation. Used Certana.ai's document verification feature to upload all the UCC filings and cross-check the debtor names against the corporate documents. It instantly flagged the inconsistencies and helped me see which variations were likely referring to the same entity. You can upload the UCC-1s along with any corporate formation docs and it will highlight where the names don't align properly. Saved me hours of manual comparison and gave me confidence about which liens were actually enforceable.
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Natasha Volkov
•Never heard of that but sounds useful for due diligence work.
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Connor Murphy
•Definitely going to check that out. Need something faster than manually comparing all these documents.
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Javier Torres
•Does it work with different document types or just UCC forms?
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Emma Wilson
CHTD might be "Chartered" abbreviated? I've seen that in financial services companies. Could also be "Consolidated Holdings" or something similar. The fact that you're seeing both LLC and non-LLC variations suggests there might have been an entity conversion at some point. Check the dates on the filings - if the LLC filings are more recent, there might have been a conversion from a different entity type.
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QuantumLeap
•Good point about the abbreviation. "Chartered" would make sense for a financial company.
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Malik Johnson
•Or "Chemical" if it's an industrial company. The acronym could be industry-specific.
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Isabella Santos
You need to be really careful with this situation. If the debtor names are seriously misleading, those UCC filings might not be enforceable against your acquisition target. But if they're just minor variations of the same legal entity, you could inherit those liens. I'd recommend getting a professional UCC search company to run this down rather than trying to figure it out yourself. The risk of missing something or misinterpreting the entity relationships is too high for an acquisition.
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Connor Murphy
•The acquisition is significant enough that we're definitely bringing in professionals, but I wanted to understand what we're dealing with first.
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Ravi Sharma
•Smart approach. At least you'll know what questions to ask the search company.
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Freya Larsen
This is giving me flashbacks to a deal where we almost missed a $2M lien because of a similar debtor name issue. The original filing had an abbreviated name that didn't match the target company's current legal name. Turned out to be the same entity after a name change years earlier. The lien was still valid and we had to negotiate it down before closing. Don't take any chances with this - trace every variation back to its source.
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Omar Hassan
•Yikes, $2M is a costly mistake. How did you finally figure out they were the same entity?
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Freya Larsen
•Had to get certified copies of all the corporate filings and amendments from the Secretary of State. Took weeks but we found the paper trail showing the name changes and entity conversions.
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Chloe Taylor
Have you tried contacting the secured parties directly? Sometimes they have better records of the actual debtor entity than what shows up in the UCC filing. If these are bank loans or equipment financing, the lenders should be able to clarify which legal entity they actually have security interests in. Might save you some detective work on the corporate formation side.
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Connor Murphy
•That's not a bad idea. Some of these filings are from major lenders who should have proper due diligence records.
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ShadowHunter
•Just be prepared for them to not be very helpful if you're not their customer. Banks can be protective of borrower information.
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Diego Ramirez
Another vote for using document verification tools for this kind of analysis. I tried that Certana platform someone mentioned earlier and it's actually pretty impressive for catching name mismatches. You just upload all the relevant documents and it highlights inconsistencies automatically. Much faster than trying to do it manually, especially when you're dealing with multiple entity variations like this.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•How accurate is the matching? Does it understand legal entity suffixes like LLC vs Corp?
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Diego Ramirez
•Yeah, it's pretty sophisticated with entity types and common abbreviations. Caught several issues I would have missed doing it by hand.
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Sean O'Connor
Don't forget to check for any UCC-3 terminations or amendments that might clarify the debtor name issues. Sometimes lenders file amendments specifically to correct debtor name errors from the original UCC-1. If you find termination statements, that could resolve some of these liens entirely. Also look for continuation statements - if liens weren't properly continued, they might have lapsed even if the debtor name was correct.
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Connor Murphy
•Good point about the amendments. I'll run a search for UCC-3 filings against all the name variations.
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Zara Ahmed
•And check the dates carefully. UCC-1 filings are only good for 5 years unless continued.
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Luca Conti
This whole situation is exactly why I hate doing acquisition due diligence. You spend weeks chasing down every possible lien variation and half the time the original filings were done incorrectly anyway. The UCC system is supposed to provide notice to searchers, but when filers can't get the debtor names right, it defeats the whole purpose. At least with modern document verification tools you can spot the inconsistencies faster than the old manual review process.
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Nia Johnson
•Tell me about it. I've seen deals blow up over UCC filing errors that could have been caught early with proper verification.
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CyberNinja
•The worst part is when you find the problem at the last minute and have to renegotiate the whole deal structure.
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Freya Pedersen
I've been through this exact scenario before and it's a nightmare to unravel. Here's what I'd recommend: First, pull the corporate records from every state where CHTD might be registered - don't just check the filing state. Second, request certified copies of any name change filings, mergers, or conversions that might explain the entity variations. Third, check if there's a parent-subsidiary relationship that could explain why you're seeing both "CHTD Company" and "CHTD Company, LLC." Sometimes the LLC is a subsidiary of the main company. Also, run searches using phonetic variations and common misspellings - I've seen filings where "CHTD" was entered as "CHDT" or similar typos. The key question is whether a reasonable searcher using the correct legal name would find these filings. If not, they might not be enforceable, but you still need to document that analysis for your acquisition team.
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Chloe Martin
This is a really complex situation that I've encountered in M&A work before. One thing that might help is checking if CHTD has any registered trade names or DBAs (doing business as) that could explain the variations. Sometimes companies file UCC-1s using their trade names rather than their exact legal entity names. Also, have you looked into whether there were any asset purchases or business combinations that might have transferred these security interests between related entities? The fact that you're seeing both LLC and non-LLC versions suggests there might have been an entity restructuring. I'd also recommend running searches in neighboring states - sometimes companies file in multiple jurisdictions and the entity names can vary slightly between states. Document everything you find because if this goes to litigation later, you'll need to show you conducted a reasonable search under all possible name variations.
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Mikayla Brown
•This is really helpful advice. I hadn't thought about checking for DBAs or trade names - that could definitely explain some of these variations. The entity restructuring angle makes a lot of sense too given the timeline of the filings. Do you know if there are any specific databases or resources that are better for tracking these kinds of corporate changes across multiple states?
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Tyler Lefleur
This is a really tricky situation that requires systematic analysis. I'd suggest creating a timeline matrix showing all the UCC filings by date alongside any corporate formation/amendment dates you can find. This will help you see if there's a pattern - like whether "CHTD Company" filings all predate the LLC formation. For the search strategy, definitely use automated document verification tools like the Certana platform others mentioned - they're designed specifically for catching these kinds of entity name inconsistencies that are easy to miss manually. Also consider that CHTD could stand for something industry-specific - if this is a tech company, it might be "Chief Technology Holdings" or similar. One red flag to watch for: if you find UCC filings that use the exact same collateral descriptions but different debtor names, that's a strong indicator they're referring to the same entity and someone just filed incorrectly. The enforceability question will ultimately depend on whether the variations are "seriously misleading" under your state's UCC Article 9 standards, but documenting your search methodology will be crucial regardless of the outcome.
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Nina Chan
•This timeline matrix approach is brilliant - I wish I'd thought of that earlier in my analysis. You're absolutely right about the automated verification tools being crucial for this kind of work. The point about identical collateral descriptions with different debtor names is particularly insightful - I'll definitely flag those patterns when I run through all the filings again. Thanks for the systematic framework, this gives me a much clearer path forward for documenting everything properly.
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Zoe Gonzalez
As someone new to UCC due diligence but dealing with a similar name variation issue, this thread has been incredibly educational. I'm curious about the practical timeline for resolving these types of debtor name discrepancies - Connor, you mentioned your acquisition is supposed to close next month. How much lead time should someone typically build into their due diligence schedule when they encounter multiple entity name variations like this? It sounds like between running searches across multiple states, getting certified corporate records, potentially contacting secured parties, and using document verification tools, this could easily add weeks to the process. Is there a point where you just have to make a business decision about proceeding despite some uncertainty, or do most buyers insist on complete clarity before closing?
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Danielle Mays
•Great question about timeline planning! In my experience, you really need to budget at least 3-4 weeks for complex name variation issues like this, especially if you need to get certified documents from multiple states. The challenge is that each discovery can lead to more questions - like when you find one name change filing that references another entity you hadn't seen before. Most buyers will accept some level of residual risk if you can document that you've done a thorough search using all reasonable name variations, but anything that could represent a material lien usually needs to be resolved definitively. The key is starting the UCC analysis early enough that you have time for the deep dive if needed.
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Paolo Bianchi
This is exactly the kind of situation where having a structured approach from day one makes all the difference. I've learned the hard way that UCC name variations can derail deals if not caught early. One additional tip that's helped me: create a master spreadsheet tracking not just the filing variations but also the secured parties and their contact information. Sometimes you'll find the same lender filed multiple UCCs with slightly different debtor names, which can give you leverage when negotiating payoffs or subordinations. Also, don't overlook the possibility that some of these filings might be against personal guarantors rather than the entity itself - I've seen "CHTD Company" refer to a principal's personal guarantee structure while "CHTD Company, LLC" refers to the actual operating entity. The document verification tools mentioned here are game-changers for this analysis, but you still need human judgment to interpret the business relationships behind the filings.
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Drew Hathaway
•This spreadsheet approach is really smart - I hadn't considered tracking the secured parties systematically like that. The point about personal guarantors vs. entity filings is particularly valuable since that could completely change the risk analysis for the acquisition. It's fascinating how these UCC searches can reveal so much about the underlying business structure and relationships. As someone just getting started with this type of due diligence work, I'm realizing there are so many layers to consider beyond just matching entity names. Thanks for sharing these practical insights from your experience!
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Rachel Clark
This thread has been incredibly helpful - I'm dealing with a similar UCC debtor name situation on a smaller acquisition and the systematic approaches everyone has shared are exactly what I needed. One question I have is about timing: when you're using document verification tools like Certana or doing the manual timeline analysis, how do you handle situations where the target company's current owners don't have complete records of historical entity changes? We're finding gaps in the corporate record trail that make it hard to definitively connect some of the older UCC filings to the current entity. Is it standard practice to require the seller to provide representations and warranties about unknown liens, or do buyers typically just build in contingency reserves for potential missed liens when the entity history is unclear?
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Mateo Hernandez
•Great question about handling incomplete historical records! In my experience, this is actually pretty common - especially with older companies that have gone through multiple ownership changes or restructurings. The standard approach is usually a combination of both seller reps/warranties and buyer contingency reserves. Most purchase agreements will include specific representations about the completeness of UCC searches and unknown liens, but smart buyers still build in reserves for exactly these situations. I'd recommend requiring the seller to provide an affidavit listing all known entity name changes and corporate restructurings, then use that as the basis for your search strategy. If there are still gaps after reasonable efforts, you can price that uncertainty into your offer or require escrow holdbacks. The document verification tools can actually help here too - they're good at flagging potential connections even when the paper trail isn't complete.
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Liam Sullivan
This is such a common headache in M&A work! I've been through similar debtor name verification nightmares and it's always a time crunch when you're trying to close. One thing that's saved me multiple times is checking the UCC filing office's own search logic - some states have specific rules about how they handle abbreviations and entity suffixes in their databases. You might find that "CHTD COMPANY" and "CHTD COMPANY LLC" would both be returned in a search for either variation, which could affect the enforceability analysis. Also, if you're working with title companies or search firms, ask them to run "wildcard" searches using partial names like "CHTD*" - sometimes that catches filings that wouldn't show up in exact name searches. The automated verification tools others mentioned are definitely worth the investment for complex situations like this, especially when you're under deadline pressure.
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QuantumQueen
•This is really helpful advice about checking the filing office's search logic! I hadn't thought about how different states might handle abbreviations and entity suffixes differently in their databases. The wildcard search approach sounds like a smart way to catch variations that might slip through exact name matching. Given all the complexity everyone has discussed here, it seems like these debtor name verification issues are more common than I initially realized. For someone new to this type of work, would you recommend starting with the automated tools first to get a baseline understanding of the discrepancies, or is it better to do the manual corporate record research upfront to understand the entity history before running the verification analysis?
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Evelyn Rivera
Having been through several UCC name verification headaches myself, I'd recommend starting with the automated document verification tools first to quickly map out all the discrepancies, then diving into the manual corporate research for the specific variations that look most problematic. The tools like Certana can process all your UCC filings and corporate docs in minutes and give you a visual overview of where the name mismatches are - this helps you prioritize which entity variations actually need deep research versus which ones are probably just minor filing errors. Once you see the pattern of discrepancies, you can focus your time on getting certified corporate records for the most concerning variations rather than chasing down every single permutation. Also consider running your searches in the states where the target company has done business historically, not just where it's currently incorporated - I've found liens filed in operational states that never showed up in the home state searches.
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Angelica Smith
•This workflow makes so much sense - using the automated tools to get the big picture first, then focusing manual research on the real problem areas. I'm just starting to work on UCC due diligence and was feeling overwhelmed by all the potential name variations to chase down. Your point about searching in operational states versus just incorporation states is really valuable too - I wouldn't have thought to expand the geographic scope like that. It sounds like these verification tools can save a ton of time upfront by helping you see patterns that might take days to identify manually. Thanks for the practical roadmap!
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Isabella Tucker
This is such a valuable discussion! As someone who's newer to UCC due diligence work, I'm curious about one aspect that hasn't been fully addressed yet - when you discover these debtor name variations during due diligence, what's the best practice for documenting your findings for the legal team? It seems like having a clear record of your search methodology and results would be crucial if any of these liens become disputed later. Should you be creating a formal memo that outlines each name variation you searched, the databases used, and the reasoning for why certain filings were or weren't deemed applicable to the target entity? Also, when you're working with the automated verification tools that several people mentioned, do those generate reports that would be suitable for legal review, or do you still need to create separate documentation of your analysis process?
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StarSeeker
•This is an excellent question about documentation practices! In my experience, creating a comprehensive search memo is absolutely critical - not just for legal review but also for your own protection if questions arise later. I typically structure mine with sections covering: (1) all name variations searched and the rationale for each, (2) databases and jurisdictions checked, (3) summary of findings with filing numbers and key details, and (4) analysis of which liens appear enforceable versus questionable. The automated tools like Certana actually do generate detailed reports that are quite suitable for legal review - they show the exact document comparisons and highlight specific discrepancies, which saves you from having to recreate that analysis manually. But I still supplement with a narrative memo explaining the business context and my conclusions about entity relationships. The key is making sure someone could replicate your search methodology months later if needed.
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Ethan Davis
This entire thread has been incredibly enlightening as someone new to UCC due diligence! The systematic approaches everyone has shared - from creating timeline matrices to using automated verification tools - are exactly what I needed to see. I'm particularly struck by how common these debtor name variation issues seem to be, and how they can completely derail deals if not caught early. One thing I'm taking away is that this really requires a multi-layered approach: starting with automated tools to map the discrepancies quickly, then doing targeted manual research on the most concerning variations, and finally documenting everything thoroughly for legal review. The point about searching operational states beyond just incorporation states is something I definitely wouldn't have considered. For those of us just getting into this field, it's clear that building extra time into due diligence schedules for these kinds of deep dives is essential - you can't just assume entity names will match perfectly across all filings.
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