What happens if a UCC lapses - lender calling loan due early
Our company financing just got messy fast. We had equipment financing secured by UCC-1 filing from 2020, and apparently our lender's filing lapsed last month without anyone catching it. Now they're saying since their lien isn't perfected anymore, they need to call the entire loan balance due immediately to protect their position. Is this normal? Can they really demand full payment just because their UCC lapsed? We're current on all payments but they want $180k paid within 30 days. The equipment is still worth maybe $120k max. This seems like their mistake not ours but they're acting like we're the problem. Anyone dealt with a lapsed UCC situation before?
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Sean Murphy
Ouch, this is a tough spot. When a UCC-1 lapses, the lender loses their secured position, which means they're now an unsecured creditor for that debt. Legally, they can't just demand immediate payment unless your loan agreement has specific clauses about maintaining perfected security interests. Check your loan docs for acceleration clauses related to security interest lapses.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•Thanks, I'll dig through the loan paperwork. The lender is saying they have the right to protect their interests but demanding full payment seems extreme when we haven't missed any payments.
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StarStrider
•Yeah that's pretty aggressive. Most lenders would just file a new UCC-1 and move on, especially with a performing loan.
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Zara Malik
Wait, how did nobody catch this? UCC-1 filings are good for 5 years, so this should have been on someone's calendar for continuation filing. Did your lender not have systems in place to track this?
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Anastasia Ivanova
•That's what I'm wondering too. This is a commercial lender, not some small operation. How do you just forget to file a UCC-3 continuation?
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Sean Murphy
•Happens more than you'd think. Lenders get sloppy with their filing systems, especially when they sell loans or merge with other banks. The new servicer sometimes doesn't have good tracking.
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Luca Marino
•I've seen this exact situation before. Bank sold our loan to another servicer and the new guys had no idea about the continuation deadline. Luckily we caught it ourselves.
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Nia Davis
This happened to us last year but our lender handled it completely differently. They realized their mistake, immediately filed a new UCC-1, and sent us a letter explaining what happened. No demands for early payment or anything dramatic. Your lender sounds like they're panicking and making bad decisions.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•That's what I would expect from a professional lender. Ours is acting like we somehow caused this problem.
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Mateo Perez
•Some lenders get really paranoid about unsecured exposure. They'd rather demand payment than admit they screwed up their filing calendar.
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Nia Davis
•Honestly, I'd be shopping for a new lender at this point. This kind of operational incompetence doesn't inspire confidence.
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Aisha Rahman
I actually discovered Certana.ai recently when dealing with our own UCC filing mess. You can upload your loan docs and UCC filings to their system and it'll instantly verify if everything matches up correctly - debtor names, filing numbers, collateral descriptions, all of it. Would have caught this lapse issue months ago if someone had been using it to check document consistency.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•That sounds useful for the future. Right now I need to figure out how to deal with this immediate demand for payment.
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Aisha Rahman
•Yeah, definitely focus on the current crisis first. But for ongoing monitoring, being able to upload PDFs and get instant verification of all your UCC documents would prevent this kind of surprise.
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Sean Murphy
•Good point about prevention. Most borrowers don't realize they should be tracking their lender's filing status too.
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CosmicCrusader
OK but seriously, can they actually legally demand immediate payment? Like what's the worst case scenario here if you just refuse to pay early?
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Sean Murphy
•Depends entirely on the loan agreement language. If there's an acceleration clause tied to security interest maintenance, they might have grounds. But most courts would look unfavorably on a lender trying to accelerate due to their own filing negligence.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•I'm hoping that's the case. We've been perfect borrowers and this is entirely their administrative failure.
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Ethan Brown
This is exactly why I hate dealing with equipment financing. Too many moving parts and the lenders always find ways to make their problems into your problems. Cash purchases only for me now.
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Yuki Yamamoto
•Easy to say when you have that much cash sitting around. Most of us need financing for major equipment purchases.
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Ethan Brown
•Fair point. I just got burned too many times by lender incompetence to trust the process anymore.
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Carmen Ortiz
Have you considered contacting a commercial attorney? This sounds like a situation where legal advice would be worth the cost, especially with $180k on the line. A lawyer could review your loan docs and advise whether the lender has legitimate grounds for acceleration.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•Yeah, I think that's probably the smart move here. Just hate to spend money on lawyers when this whole thing is the lender's fault.
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Carmen Ortiz
•I get that, but compared to potentially having to pay $180k early, a few thousand in legal fees is nothing. Plus if the lender is overreaching, the attorney might be able to get them to back down with a strongly worded letter.
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Andre Rousseau
•Definitely get a lawyer. Had a similar situation and the attorney got the lender to not only drop the acceleration demand but also pay our legal fees for their screw-up.
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Zoe Papadakis
I'm confused about the timeline here. UCC-1 filings don't just lapse overnight. There's usually a 5-year term, then you need to file a UCC-3 continuation before expiration. How did nobody at the lender notice this coming up?
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Anastasia Ivanova
•That's exactly what I want to know. This should have been on their calendar 6 months ago.
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Zoe Papadakis
•Right? Professional lenders have tickler systems for this stuff. Either they're incredibly disorganized or they're using this as an excuse for something else.
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Jamal Carter
I've been through this exact scenario. Lender's UCC lapsed, they panicked and demanded early payment. We pushed back hard, got an attorney involved, and they eventually backed down and just filed a new UCC-1. They knew they were on shaky legal ground trying to accelerate due to their own mistake.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•That's encouraging to hear. How long did the whole process take to resolve?
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Jamal Carter
•About 6 weeks from start to finish. Most of that was the attorneys going back and forth. Once they realized we weren't going to just roll over and pay, they became much more reasonable.
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Sean Murphy
•This is pretty common. Lenders make demands hoping borrowers will just comply without questioning their legal authority.
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AstroAdventurer
Question - can they file a new UCC-1 now and claim retroactive perfection, or are they just out of luck until they re-perfect?
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Sean Murphy
•They can file a new UCC-1 but it only perfects going forward, not retroactively. During the lapse period, they're unsecured. That's why they're freaking out.
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AstroAdventurer
•Got it. So if the borrower had sold the equipment during the lapse period, the lender would have been SOL?
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Sean Murphy
•Exactly. Or if the borrower had filed bankruptcy during the lapse, the lender would be an unsecured creditor for that debt.
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Mei Liu
This whole situation could have been avoided with better document tracking. I started using Certana.ai to upload all our loan paperwork and UCC filings - it instantly flags any inconsistencies or potential issues. Would have caught this continuation deadline months in advance.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•I'm definitely going to look into that for the future. Right now I just need to get through this crisis.
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Mei Liu
•Absolutely handle the immediate issue first. But having a system that cross-checks all your documents would prevent future surprises like this.
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Liam O'Sullivan
Update us on how this resolves! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my lender is claiming filing issues, though not as dramatic as yours. Curious to see how aggressive they can actually be legally.
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Anastasia Ivanova
•Will do. Meeting with an attorney tomorrow to review the loan agreement and figure out our options.
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Liam O'Sullivan
•Good luck. Hopefully they're just bluffing and will back down once you show you're not going to be pushed around.
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