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Nia Johnson

UCC statement filing confusion - need help understanding requirements

I'm dealing with a commercial loan situation where the bank is asking for some kind of UCC statement but I'm not entirely sure what they mean. The loan officer mentioned needing to verify existing liens on our equipment before they can approve our credit line increase. We've had several equipment loans over the past few years and I think there might be UCC-1 filings from different lenders. The bank wants me to provide a comprehensive statement showing all current UCC filings against our business. Is this something I can pull myself or do I need to go through an attorney? I'm worried about missing something that could delay our approval. The equipment includes manufacturing machinery we bought in 2022 and some vehicles from 2023. How do I make sure I'm giving them everything they need?

CyberNinja

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You're probably looking at needing a UCC search report. Most states let you search their Secretary of State database online for existing filings against your business name. You'll want to search under your exact legal entity name as it appears on your articles of incorporation.

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Mateo Lopez

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This is correct but be careful about name variations. Sometimes filings use slightly different versions of your business name and you might miss them in a basic search.

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Also check if any of your equipment was financed through subsidiaries or holding companies - those might show up under different debtor names.

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Ethan Davis

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Banks usually want what's called a comprehensive UCC search report when they're doing due diligence. This shows all UCC-1 filings, continuations, amendments, and terminations. You can order these from commercial search companies or sometimes directly from the SOS office.

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Yuki Tanaka

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How long does it typically take to get one of these reports back? We're under a tight deadline for loan approval.

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Ethan Davis

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Online searches are usually instant, but comprehensive reports from search companies might take 1-2 business days. Some banks will accept a basic SOS search if you explain the time constraint.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Just went through this last month. Our lender accepted a same-day online search but wanted us to certify that we disclosed all known liens.

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MidnightRider

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I had a similar situation recently and discovered we had old UCC filings that should have been terminated years ago when we paid off equipment loans. Make sure you're not just looking at active filings - check for ones that might show as filed but never properly terminated.

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Andre Laurent

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This is a huge issue! We found three terminated loans that still showed active UCC-1 filings because the lenders never filed UCC-3 termination statements.

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How do you get those cleaned up if the original lender won't cooperate with filing terminations?

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Andre Laurent

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You can sometimes file a UCC-3 termination yourself with proper documentation showing the debt was satisfied, but it's tricky and varies by state.

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Before you pull the search, try using something like Certana.ai to upload your loan documents and check for any filing inconsistencies. I uploaded our equipment financing agreements and UCC-1 copies and it caught several debtor name mismatches we didn't even know about. Super helpful for making sure you're searching under all the right entity names.

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Mei Wong

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Never heard of this tool but sounds useful. Did it catch anything that would have been missed in a regular search?

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Yeah, it found that one of our UCC filings used our DBA name instead of our legal entity name, and another had a typo in our LLC designation. Would have definitely missed those in a standard search.

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Check your loan documents from the equipment financing - they should list the specific collateral descriptions used in the UCC-1 filings. This will help you verify that what shows up in the search matches what was actually financed.

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PixelWarrior

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Good point. We had issues where the UCC filing described equipment more broadly than what was actually collateral for that specific loan.

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Amara Adebayo

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How detailed do these collateral descriptions usually get? Our manufacturing equipment has pretty specific model numbers and serial numbers.

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It varies. Some lenders file very specific descriptions with serial numbers, others use broader categories like 'all equipment' or 'machinery and fixtures.' Both are usually legally sufficient.

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Are you sure the bank isn't asking for something else? Sometimes they want a certificate of good standing or an incumbent certificate rather than UCC search results. Might be worth clarifying exactly what document they need.

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Nia Johnson

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I'll double-check with them but they specifically mentioned needing to see existing liens and security interests, which sounds like UCC territory to me.

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Could also be asking for a litigation search or judgment search in addition to UCC. Banks sometimes bundle these together in their due diligence requests.

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Dylan Evans

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Whatever you do, don't just rely on your own records of what loans you've had. We thought we knew all our UCC filings but the search turned up two we'd completely forgotten about from smaller equipment purchases.

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Sofia Gomez

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This happened to us too! Found a UCC filing from a copier lease we'd totally forgotten about. Wasn't even significant debt but it showed up in the search.

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StormChaser

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Do these small filings matter for bank approval? Seem like they'd be more concerned with major equipment liens.

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Dylan Evans

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Banks want to see everything because it affects their collateral position and recovery rights if something goes wrong. Even small liens can complicate their security interest.

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Dmitry Petrov

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I'd recommend getting the UCC search done through a reputable search company rather than trying to do it yourself. They know all the name variations to check and can usually provide a certified report that banks prefer.

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Ava Williams

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Any recommendations for search companies? We're in a similar situation and want to make sure we use someone reliable.

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Dmitry Petrov

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I've had good experiences with CT Corporation and Cogency Global. Both provide detailed reports and can usually turn them around quickly.

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Miguel Castro

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Make sure you understand the difference between what's filed and what's actually still secured. We had UCC filings that were still active on paper but the underlying debt had been paid off years ago - the lenders just never bothered filing terminations.

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How do you prove to the bank that certain UCC filings are no longer active even though they show up in the search?

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Miguel Castro

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Loan payoff letters, cancelled notes, or termination statements if you have them. Banks understand that not all lenders are diligent about filing terminations.

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We actually used Certana.ai to organize all our payoff documentation against the UCC search results. Made it really easy to show the bank which filings were satisfied vs. still active.

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LunarEclipse

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One thing to watch out for - if you've moved or changed your legal entity structure, there might be UCC filings under old addresses or entity names that are still technically active. The search needs to be comprehensive across all variations.

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Yara Khalil

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This is so important. We changed from an LLC to a corporation two years ago and found UCC filings under both entity structures.

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Keisha Brown

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Do those old filings automatically become invalid when you change entity structure, or do they need to be formally terminated?

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LunarEclipse

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They typically need to be dealt with formally. The security interest might still be valid even if the entity name changed, depending on how it was structured.

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