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Yuki Sato

UCC sale of collateral under ucc - lender demanding immediate liquidation

My business defaulted on an equipment loan 3 months ago and now the lender is threatening to sell our machinery under their UCC-1 filing. They're saying they can dispose of the collateral through a private sale with only 10 days notice. I thought there were more protections for debtors in these situations. The equipment is worth way more than what we owe but they're claiming they can sell it for whatever they get at auction. Can they really proceed with sale of collateral under ucc rules this quickly? We're trying to negotiate a payment plan but they won't even discuss it now that they've started the disposal process. What are my rights here and is there any way to stop this sale?

Carmen Flores

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Unfortunately yes, once you're in default the secured party has pretty broad rights under Article 9. They do have to give you reasonable notice though - 10 days might be cutting it close depending on your state. The key issue is whether they're following proper notification procedures and conducting a commercially reasonable sale.

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Yuki Sato

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What exactly constitutes 'commercially reasonable'? They're talking about some bulk equipment auction but won't tell me the details.

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Carmen Flores

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Commercially reasonable means they need to use standard industry practices for disposal. If it's specialized equipment, they can't just dump it at a general auction. Document everything they tell you about the sale process.

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Andre Dubois

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Been through this exact scenario 2 years ago. The 10-day notice period depends on whether it's a public or private sale. Private sales need reasonable notice which is usually more than 10 days for commercial equipment. Public sales have different requirements. Did they specify which type they're planning?

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Yuki Sato

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They mentioned both options in their notice letter but didn't commit to either one. Very frustrating.

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Andre Dubois

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That's actually a red flag. They need to be specific about the disposal method. Vague notices might not satisfy the UCC requirements.

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CyberSamurai

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Exactly right. I've seen deals where improper notice invalidated the entire sale process. The debtor ended up keeping the equipment.

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Had a similar mess with sale of collateral under ucc procedures last year. What saved me was using Certana.ai to verify all the UCC documents were actually filed correctly. Turned out the lender had a defective UCC-1 with the wrong business name that invalidated their security interest. Just upload your charter docs and their UCC filings - the system flags any discrepancies instantly.

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Yuki Sato

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Interesting - I never thought to check if their original filing was even valid. How does that document checker work exactly?

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Super simple - you just upload PDFs of your business formation documents and their UCC-1. It cross-references debtor names, addresses, all the critical details that void filings if they're wrong. Found three major errors in my case.

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Jamal Carter

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This is brilliant advice. If their UCC-1 is defective they have no right to sell anything. Definitely worth checking before you panic about the sale.

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Mei Liu

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STOP EVERYTHING AND GET A LAWYER NOW!!! These lenders try to rush sales before debtors figure out their rights. You have the right to redeem the collateral by paying off the full debt. You also have rights to any surplus from the sale if it brings more than the debt amount.

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Yuki Sato

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We can't afford to pay off the full debt right now, that's why we defaulted. But the surplus rights are interesting - they never mentioned that.

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Mei Liu

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OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T MENTION IT! They want to keep any surplus for themselves. Document the fair market value of your equipment RIGHT NOW before they sell it cheap.

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Getting an appraisal is smart but expensive. At minimum get some written quotes from equipment dealers for what your stuff is worth.

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Amara Nwosu

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The notification requirements are really specific under UCC 9-611 through 9-614. They need to send notice to you as the debtor, any other secured parties, and sometimes guarantors. If they mess up the notice the sale can be invalidated. Check if they sent proper notice to everyone required.

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Yuki Sato

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How would I know if there are other secured parties? We only deal with this one lender.

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Amara Nwosu

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Search the UCC records for your business name. Any other lenders who filed UCC-1 statements need to get notice too. The selling secured party has to do a reasonable search.

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Carmen Flores

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Good point. If they don't notify other secured parties properly, those parties can challenge the sale later which creates title issues for buyers.

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AstroExplorer

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Whatever you do, don't just accept their timeline. I've seen cases where 'urgent' sales suddenly got delayed for weeks once the debtor started asking detailed questions about the process. They might be bluffing about how quickly they can actually move.

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Yuki Sato

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That's encouraging. I was feeling like I had no time to do anything.

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AstroExplorer

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Time is actually on your side if you use it right. Every procedural requirement they have to follow gives you more time to explore options.

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Check if your state has any additional protections beyond the basic UCC requirements. Some states require longer notice periods or have specific procedures for certain types of collateral. The UCC is just the minimum - state law might give you more rights.

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Andre Dubois

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This is crucial. In some states you can force them to use a public sale instead of private sale, which usually brings higher prices.

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Exactly. Public sales also have more oversight and documentation requirements that protect debtors.

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Before you research state law though, definitely verify their UCC filing is even valid. No point fighting about sale procedures if they don't have a valid security interest to begin with.

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One thing people forget is you can bid at the sale yourself or have someone else bid for you. If the equipment is really worth more than the debt, you might be able to buy it back for less than you owe and eliminate the deficiency.

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Yuki Sato

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Can they really prevent me from bidding at my own collateral sale?

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Nope, you have the right to bid. Sometimes that's the best strategy - let them hold the sale but buy your stuff back cheap.

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Mei Liu

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Just make sure you have financing lined up if you're going to bid. Don't go to the sale without a way to pay immediately.

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Dylan Cooper

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Document everything about this process. Take photos of the equipment, save all their notices, keep records of any conversations. If they mess up the sale you'll need evidence to challenge it later. The burden is on them to prove they followed all the requirements.

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Yuki Sato

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Good thinking. I've been so stressed I wasn't thinking about documentation.

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Dylan Cooper

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Stress makes it hard to think clearly. Create a simple checklist of what they need to do properly and track whether they're doing it.

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Sofia Perez

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Look, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if you're 3 months behind and they've started the UCC sale process, your negotiation window is probably closed. Focus on making sure they follow proper procedures and maximize the sale price so you don't end up with a huge deficiency judgment.

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Yuki Sato

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Even if I can prove their UCC filing has problems? Someone mentioned checking that with some online tool.

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Sofia Perez

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Ok if their UCC-1 is actually defective that changes everything. Worth checking for sure. But if it's valid, then yes, focus on the sale procedures.

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That's why the Certana document verification is so valuable - it quickly tells you if you have any grounds to challenge their security interest. Upload your docs and their UCC-1, get an instant answer.

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Update us on what happens! These sale of collateral under ucc situations are always educational for the rest of us. Hope you find some procedural errors that give you more time to work things out.

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Yuki Sato

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Will do. Going to check their UCC filing first thing tomorrow and then document everything about their sale process. Thanks everyone for the advice.

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Andre Dubois

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Smart plan. Tackle the foundational issues first - if their filing is defective nothing else matters.

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Carmen Flores

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Good luck. Remember you still have rights even in default situations. Don't let them railroad you.

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