UCC 9-608 rights after default - secured party disposal obligations?
Dealing with a borrower default situation and trying to understand UCC 9-608 requirements for secured party disposal of collateral. Our equipment financing company has $180K in outstanding debt on manufacturing equipment that we repossessed last month. The debtor filed Chapter 11 but we have a perfected security interest with a UCC-1 filed in 2022. From what I'm reading in UCC 9-608, we have options for disposal but there are specific notice requirements and commercially reasonable standards we need to follow. The equipment is specialized CNC machinery that's losing value sitting in storage. Anyone dealt with 9-608 disposal procedures recently? Specifically wondering about: - Required notice periods to debtor and other secured parties - What constitutes "commercially reasonable" disposal for specialized equipment - Whether we can sell privately vs public auction - How to handle potential deficiency claims The borrower's attorney is threatening to challenge our disposal methods even though we haven't sold anything yet. Want to make sure we're following 9-608 to the letter to avoid any claims that could affect our deficiency rights.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
UCC 9-608 disposal can be tricky especially with specialized equipment. You're right to be careful about the commercially reasonable standard - that's where most challenges come from. For CNC machinery, private sale might actually be more commercially reasonable than auction since you'll likely get better prices from industrial buyers who understand the equipment value. Key 9-608 requirements: - 10 days written notice to debtor (unless they waived it) - Notice to other secured parties who filed UCC-1s - Every aspect must be commercially reasonable - You can sell privately, publicly, or keep the collateral in satisfaction With Chapter 11 involved, make sure you're coordinating with the bankruptcy court too.
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Rajan Walker
•Good point about private sale being more reasonable for specialized equipment. We had a similar situation with printing equipment last year and got 40% more through private sale to industry buyers vs what the auction house estimated.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Wait, is the 10-day notice requirement still valid if they're in Chapter 11? I thought bankruptcy changes some of the UCC 9-608 timing requirements.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Bankruptcy can affect timing but 9-608 notice requirements generally still apply unless the court orders otherwise. Better to over-notice than get challenged later on procedural grounds.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
We just went through UCC 9-608 disposal process last quarter and honestly the documentation requirements are extensive. You need to document EVERYTHING to prove commercial reasonableness - market research, pricing comparisons, method selection rationale. For your CNC equipment, I'd suggest getting appraisals from multiple sources first. That gives you baseline values to justify your disposal method and protects against claims that you didn't maximize recovery. Also check if there are other UCC-1 filings against this debtor - you'll need to send notices to junior lienholders too under 9-608.
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Anna Xian
•Thanks, that's helpful. We did UCC searches and found two other secured parties with filings against the debtor. One looks like it might be equipment financing too but different collateral descriptions.
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Ev Luca
•Make sure you're reading those collateral descriptions carefully. If there's overlap you could have priority issues that affect your 9-608 disposal proceeds distribution.
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Avery Davis
This might sound random but we started using Certana.ai's document verification tool for situations exactly like this. You can upload your original UCC-1, the other secured parties' filings, and any UCC-3 amendments to instantly check for collateral overlaps and debtor name consistency issues. Saved us major headaches on a disposal last month where we almost missed that another lender had a blanket lien that included our equipment category. The tool caught the overlap immediately when we uploaded the PDFs. Really streamlined our 9-608 due diligence process.
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Anna Xian
•Interesting, never heard of that tool. How does it work exactly? Just upload the UCC documents and it analyzes them?
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Avery Davis
•Exactly - just upload the PDFs and it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, filing numbers, everything. Catches inconsistencies that could affect your perfection or priority status before you proceed with disposal.
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Collins Angel
•That actually sounds useful for 9-608 compliance. Documentation is so critical and manual review misses things.
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Marcelle Drum
ugh dealing with 9-608 disposal right now too and the borrower's attorney is being completely unreasonable. They're claiming our repossession was improper even though we had clear default and followed all the self-help requirements. Now they want to challenge our disposal method before we've even started the process. It's like they're trying to tie up the collateral forever while it depreciates. The whole UCC system feels broken when debtors can delay reasonable disposal with frivolous challenges.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Document everything meticulously and stick to 9-608 requirements. If you follow the statute properly, their delaying tactics won't hold up. Courts generally support secured parties who demonstrate commercial reasonableness.
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Marcelle Drum
•I hope you're right. Just frustrating when every step gets challenged even when we're trying to follow 9-608 exactly as written.
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Tate Jensen
For CNC equipment specifically, you might want to consider contacting machinery dealers who specialize in that type of equipment. They often know the market better than general auctioneers and can help establish that your disposal method meets the commercially reasonable standard under 9-608. Also document the storage costs and depreciation - that can support your argument for quicker disposal if the debtor tries to claim you rushed the process.
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Anna Xian
•Good point about storage costs. We're paying $2500/month just to warehouse this equipment and it's definitely not getting more valuable sitting there.
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Adaline Wong
•Make sure you track those storage costs properly - they can be added to the debt balance in most cases but need to be reasonable and documented.
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Gabriel Ruiz
One thing about 9-608 disposal - make sure you understand the different standards for different types of disposal. Private sale has different requirements than public auction, and if you keep the collateral in full satisfaction that's strict foreclosure under 9-620 not 9-608 disposal. With $180K debt vs specialized equipment, you'll probably want disposal rather than strict foreclosure anyway to preserve deficiency rights.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•Yeah strict foreclosure only makes sense when the collateral value roughly equals the debt. Otherwise you're giving up potential deficiency recovery.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Wait what's the difference between 9-608 disposal and 9-620 strict foreclosure again? I always get confused on when each applies.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•9-608 disposal = you sell the collateral and apply proceeds to debt, can pursue deficiency. 9-620 strict foreclosure = you keep collateral in full satisfaction of debt, no deficiency rights. Different notice requirements and procedures for each.
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Peyton Clarke
Just wanted to add - if you're dealing with Chapter 11 bankruptcy, make sure you check whether you need relief from automatic stay before proceeding with 9-608 disposal. The bankruptcy might complicate your disposal timeline even if your security interest is properly perfected.
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Anna Xian
•We already got relief from stay for the repossession but you're right, we should confirm it covers disposal too. Don't want to violate the automatic stay accidentally.
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Vince Eh
•Definitely check that. Bankruptcy courts are strict about automatic stay violations and you don't want to jeopardize your secured position over a procedural issue.
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Sophia Gabriel
Been through several 9-608 disposals and the key is really documentation. Keep records of every decision, every market inquiry, every step of the process. If challenged later, you need to prove every aspect was commercially reasonable. For your situation, I'd recommend: 1. Get multiple appraisals/market opinions 2. Document why you chose your disposal method 3. Keep records of all notices sent 4. Document market conditions and timing decisions 5. Get competitive bids if selling The commercially reasonable standard is flexible but you need evidence to support your choices.
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Tobias Lancaster
•This is solid advice. Documentation saved us when a debtor challenged our disposal last year. Court ruled in our favor because we could prove every decision was reasonable based on market conditions.
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Anna Xian
•Thanks, this gives me a good checklist to work from. Better to over-document than get caught short if this gets litigated.
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Ezra Beard
Another thing - check whether your original security agreement has any specific disposal provisions. Sometimes loan docs include additional requirements beyond what 9-608 requires. You'll need to comply with both the UCC and your contract terms.
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Statiia Aarssizan
•Good catch. We had a case where the security agreement required specific disposal methods that were more restrictive than 9-608. Always read the fine print.
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Reginald Blackwell
Quick question - you mentioned the equipment is losing value in storage. How long do you have to wait between sending 9-608 notices and actually disposing of the collateral? Is there a minimum waiting period?
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•Generally 10 days after sending notice, but check your state's version of 9-608. Some states have variations. The key is that disposal must occur within a reasonable time after default, but you can't rush the notice period.
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Aria Khan
•And remember that "reasonable time" for disposal depends on the type of collateral. Perishable goods need faster disposal than equipment, but depreciating assets like CNC machinery shouldn't sit indefinitely either.
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Everett Tutum
We actually started using that Certana document checker tool someone mentioned earlier for our UCC compliance reviews. Really helpful for complex disposal situations where you need to verify all the secured party filings and make sure there are no debtor name mismatches that could affect notice requirements. Uploaded our UCC-1 and found a minor discrepancy in how we'd formatted the debtor's business name compared to their charter documents. Could have caused problems with 9-608 notice validity if we hadn't caught it.
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Anna Xian
•That's exactly the kind of detail that could derail a disposal process. Might be worth checking our filings too before we send notices.
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Sunny Wang
•Yeah debtor name accuracy is critical for 9-608 notice requirements. Any mismatch gives them grounds to challenge the whole disposal process.
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