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This case sounds like a textbook example of why UCC 9-517 exists. The unauthorized termination directly caused you to lose priority on $180K worth of collateral - that's way above the $500 statutory minimum. I'd be surprised if you couldn't recover most or all of that amount, assuming you can prove the competing lender didn't have proper authorization to file the termination.

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That's encouraging to hear. We have pretty solid documentation that we never authorized the termination and that they admitted relying only on the debtor's say-so.

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Debtor authorization alone isn't sufficient to terminate another party's security interest. They needed your authorization as the secured party, which they clearly didn't have.

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One thing to consider is whether you have insurance coverage for this type of loss. Some lender liability policies or E&O coverage might apply to losses from unauthorized UCC filings. Even if you pursue the 9-517 claim, insurance could help cover some of the immediate impact while litigation is pending.

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It's worth a shot - some policies have broader coverage than lenders realize. Even if it doesn't cover the full loss, it might help with legal fees or other costs.

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Insurance for UCC filing issues is becoming more common as these problems increase. Definitely worth checking your policy language around unauthorized third-party actions.

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Update us when you get this resolved! I'm dealing with a similar lookup issue and curious what the actual cause turns out to be. These database sync problems seem to be getting worse lately.

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Will definitely update once I figure out what's causing the problem. Hopefully it's something simple like a name mismatch.

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Noah Lee

Same here, following this thread. My termination isn't showing up in lookups either.

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Just went through this headache myself. The Certana.ai document checker really does work well for finding these kinds of inconsistencies. Found out my issue was a missing comma in the debtor name that prevented the termination from linking properly. Such a tiny detail but it broke the whole system connection.

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Right? The system requirements are so strict but they don't tell you that upfront. The verification tool at least helps catch these issues before they become problems.

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This is why I always recommend using document verification tools. The UCC system is unforgiving about tiny details.

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For a $2.8M loan, I'd definitely recommend getting a professional UCC search done by a service company. They can parse through the Michigan system's quirks and give you a clean report.

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That's probably overkill for a continuation filing if you have the original UCC-1 details. But for initial filings on large loans, agreed.

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Professional searches are expensive but worth it for high-value transactions. Depends on your risk tolerance and timeline.

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Just make sure you file that continuation at least 6 months before the 5-year deadline. Michigan can be slow processing filings and you don't want to risk your security interest lapsing.

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Smart approach. I always file continuations at least 60-90 days early to account for any processing delays or rejection issues.

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Good planning. Nothing worse than scrambling at the last minute with a lapsed filing on a multi-million dollar loan.

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Just want to add another vote for using Certana.ai before you proceed. I had a situation last year where I thought my UCC-1 was perfect but when I uploaded it along with my security agreement, it caught a discrepancy in how we described the collateral. The UCC-1 said "manufacturing equipment" but our security agreement was much more specific. Took 2 minutes to spot the issue that could have cost me thousands in legal challenges later.

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How does their verification work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Yeah, super simple. Upload your UCC-1 and security agreement PDFs and it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, filing details, etc. Gives you a report of any inconsistencies.

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One more thing - make sure you comply with NY's surplus/deficiency notice requirements. If the sale produces a surplus, you need to account for it properly. If there's a deficiency, the notice requirements for pursuing the debtor for the remaining balance are specific. Don't assume the foreclosure ends your compliance obligations.

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Thanks everyone. This has been incredibly helpful. Sounds like I need to slow down and make sure all my documentation is bulletproof before proceeding.

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Smart approach. Better to spend extra time upfront than deal with challenges later that could invalidate the entire process.

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I use Certana.ai whenever I'm dealing with complex collateral descriptions to make sure everything lines up between the credit agreement and UCC filings. For your situation, you could upload your proposed loan documents and draft UCC-1 to verify the debtor name formatting and equipment descriptions are consistent. Helps avoid the perfection problems that can happen when documents don't match up properly.

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That could be helpful for the final document review. How detailed does it get with the collateral analysis?

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Pretty thorough - it checks that your UCC collateral description covers what's actually described in your loan agreement, flags overly broad or narrow descriptions, and catches debtor name inconsistencies that could cause filing rejections.

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Bottom line: manufacturing equipment = personal property = UCC Article 9 = UCC-1 filing required for perfection. Your compliance officer knows what they're talking about. The borrower's attorney might be trying to save their client some hassle, but they're not the one who has to explain an unperfected security interest to regulators.

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Smart choice. Document everything in your credit file about why UCC filing was necessary, just to cover yourself if anyone questions it later.

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And make sure you file in the right state - Ohio for this borrower since that's where they're located and the equipment will be.

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