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Nalani Liu

UCC 9-610 sale notice requirements - what happens if borrower disputes collateral value?

We're dealing with a situation where our commercial borrower defaulted on their equipment loan and we need to proceed with disposition under UCC 9-610. The collateral is specialized manufacturing equipment that we had appraised at $185k but the debtor is claiming it's worth at least $300k and threatening to challenge our sale procedures. I've read through 9-610 but I'm getting conflicting advice about whether we need a second appraisal before proceeding with the sale. The debtor received proper notice but now they're saying our proposed sale method (public auction) won't get fair market value. Has anyone dealt with debtors challenging the commercialy reasonable standard under 9-610? We want to make sure we follow all the requirements correctly because this borrower seems ready to fight everything in court.

Axel Bourke

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UCC 9-610 doesn't require you to get multiple appraisals before sale, but the key is that your disposition method has to be 'commercially reasonable.' If the debtor is claiming the equipment is worth significantly more, you might want to document why your sale method will achieve fair value. What type of auction house are you using? Specialized equipment sometimes does better with industry-specific auctioneers rather than general commercial auctions.

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Nalani Liu

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We were planning to use the same auction company that handles most commercial equipment in our area. They've sold similar manufacturing equipment before but not this specific type. Should we be looking for someone who specializes more in this industry?

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Axel Bourke

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That could help your commercial reasonableness argument. If you can show you researched auction houses and chose one with relevant experience, it's harder for the debtor to claim the sale wasn't reasonable. Document your selection process.

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Aidan Percy

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Been through this exact scenario last year. The debtor fought us on everything including our 9-610 notice and sale method. What saved us was having detailed documentation of comparable sales and why we chose our disposition method. Court sided with us because we could prove commercial reasonableness. Make sure your notice includes all required info and keep records of everything.

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Nalani Liu

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What kind of comparable sales data did you gather? We're having trouble finding recent sales of similar equipment to support our valuation.

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Aidan Percy

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We used industry publications, contacted other lenders who had sold similar collateral, and got data from equipment dealers. The key was showing we made reasonable efforts to determine market value before choosing our sale method.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for collateral disputes. You can upload your appraisal docs, UCC filings, and sale notices to verify everything aligns properly before the debtor starts picking apart your procedures. Caught several inconsistencies in our documentation that could have been problems in court.

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Norman Fraser

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The commercially reasonable standard under 9-610 is pretty flexible but you need to be able to defend your choices. If the debtor is already threatening court action, I'd suggest getting a second opinion on value just to cover your bases. Even if not required, it shows you took the debtor's concerns seriously.

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Kendrick Webb

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Agree with getting second appraisal. We had a similar case where debtor claimed our single appraisal was too low. Having two independent valuations made our court defense much stronger.

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Nalani Liu

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The cost of a second appraisal would come out of sale proceeds anyway, so that makes sense. Better to have too much documentation than not enough when dealing with litigious borrowers.

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Hattie Carson

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UGH this is why I hate equipment loans. Borrowers always think their stuff is worth more than it really is, especially when they're facing foreclosure. 9-610 gives you flexibility in sale method as long as its commercially reasonable. Don't let them bully you into thinking you need perfect procedures - just reasonable ones.

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LOL so true. Every defaulted borrower suddenly becomes an equipment appraiser when foreclosure starts. They never complained about values when they needed the loan!

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Norman Fraser

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While I understand the frustration, taking the debtor's valuation concerns seriously is still important for legal protection. Better to over-document than face a successful challenge later.

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Dyllan Nantx

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Make sure your 9-611 notice includes all the required elements - description of collateral, method of disposition, debtor's right to accounting, etc. If they're planning to fight everything, they'll definitely challenge your notice compliance. Also document when and how you sent the notice.

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Nalani Liu

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We sent certified mail to all required parties but I'm second-guessing whether our collateral description was specific enough. It just says 'manufacturing equipment' but maybe we should have listed each piece individually?

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Dyllan Nantx

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For valuable collateral that might be challenged, more specific descriptions are usually better. If you still have time before sale, consider sending an amended notice with detailed equipment list.

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I've found Certana.ai helpful for reviewing 9-610/9-611 compliance. Upload your security agreement and sale notices to check if descriptions match properly. Saves time compared to manual cross-checking and catches details you might miss.

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Anna Xian

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What's your timeline looking like? If the debtor is threatening court action, they might try to get an injunction to stop the sale. Having all your documentation buttoned up before they file anything puts you in a stronger position.

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Nalani Liu

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Sale is scheduled for next month. We haven't heard anything from their attorney yet but they mentioned getting legal help when we talked last week.

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Anna Xian

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That gives you some time to shore up your documentation. If they do file for injunction, court will look at whether your sale procedures appear commercially reasonable based on what you've prepared so far.

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The $115k difference between appraisals is significant enough that I'd want rock-solid documentation of sale method selection. Have you considered getting quotes from multiple auction houses to compare their estimated recovery amounts?

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Nalani Liu

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That's a good idea. Even if we stick with our original choice, having competing estimates would help show we evaluated options.

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Rajan Walker

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Yes! We do this routinely now. Get quotes from 2-3 different sale methods (auction, private sale, dealer network) and document why you chose your approach. Makes the commercial reasonableness argument much easier.

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One thing to watch for - make sure you're calculating the deficiency correctly if there is one. 9-610 has specific rules about crediting sale proceeds and the debtor will definitely scrutinize your accounting if they're already being difficult.

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Nalani Liu

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Good point. We'll have sale expenses, storage costs, and legal fees to account for. Need to make sure we're following 9-615 requirements for surplus/deficiency calculations.

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Exactly. And if there's a surplus, you have to pay it to the debtor promptly. If there's a deficiency, your accounting has to be detailed and accurate or they can challenge the whole thing.

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Another area where document verification tools help. Upload your UCC-1, security agreement, and accounting worksheets to make sure everything ties together properly. Found errors in our deficiency calculations that would have been embarrassing in court.

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Have you confirmed there are no junior lienholders who need notice? 9-611 requires notice to other secured parties and the debtor might use any notice defects to attack the sale validity.

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Nalani Liu

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We did UCC searches but they were a few months ago. Should probably run fresh searches to make sure no new filings appeared.

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Definitely do fresh searches close to sale date. New filings can pop up right before foreclosure as debtors scramble for additional financing.

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Ev Luca

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Document everything about your decision-making process. If this goes to court, you'll need to show the judge that you made reasonable business decisions based on available information. The standard isn't perfection, it's commercial reasonableness.

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Nalani Liu

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That's reassuring. We've been trying to do everything perfectly but maybe we're overthinking it. As long as our procedures are reasonable and well-documented, we should be okay.

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Ev Luca

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Exactly. Courts understand that secured parties need to be able to realize on collateral efficiently. Just make sure you can explain and defend your choices with facts and documentation.

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As a newcomer here, I'm curious about the practical timeline considerations when debtors are threatening litigation. How much advance notice do you typically give beyond the minimum UCC requirements when you anticipate pushback? I'm wondering if providing extra notice time (even though not legally required) might help demonstrate good faith and commercial reasonableness if this does end up in court.

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