UCC lien on bank account - debtor name shows different on filing vs bank records
Running into a major headache with a UCC filing situation. We have a commercial client who defaulted on equipment financing, and when we went to perfect our security interest we discovered the UCC-1 we filed 2 years ago has the debtor name as 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but their primary operating account is under 'ABC Manufacturing Group LLC'. The bank is saying our lien attachment might be invalid because of the name discrepancy. Our original loan docs and credit app all reference 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but somewhere along the line they started using the longer version for banking. Account has about $180K sitting in it right now. Anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name mismatch between UCC filings and actual bank account records? Not sure if we need to file a UCC-3 amendment or if our original filing still covers this since it's essentially the same entity. This could seriously impact our recovery if the lien doesn't attach properly.
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Ally Tailer
This is exactly why debtor name accuracy is so critical in UCC filings. The 'seriously misleading' test under Article 9 might apply here. If the LLC suffix difference would make a reasonable searcher unable to find your filing when searching under the actual business name, you could have problems. I'd definitely recommend filing a UCC-3 amendment ASAP to add the correct debtor name as an additional name. Don't risk it with $180K on the line.
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Aliyah Debovski
•Wait so even if it's the same company just with 'Group' added, that could void the whole security interest? That seems crazy harsh for what's basically a paperwork mixup.
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Ally Tailer
•Unfortunately yes, debtor name accuracy is one of the most unforgiving aspects of UCC law. Courts have invalidated security interests for much smaller discrepancies. The 'Group' addition could be considered a material difference that would mislead searchers.
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Miranda Singer
•This happened to us last year with a client who had inconsistent entity names across different accounts. We learned the hard way that banks will absolutely challenge lien validity if there's any name mismatch, even minor ones.
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Cass Green
Had almost the exact same issue 6 months ago. The bank initially rejected our garnishment because of a similar LLC name variation. What saved us was being able to prove the entity was the same through Secretary of State records showing DBAs and name history. But honestly, the easiest fix is just filing the UCC-3 amendment to cover both versions of the name. Takes like 10 minutes online and costs maybe $25-40 depending on your state.
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Callum Savage
•Did you have to go back and amend your original UCC-1 or just file the UCC-3 with the additional name? And how long did it take for the bank to accept the lien after you got the paperwork sorted?
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Cass Green
•We filed a UCC-3 amendment adding the bank account version of the name as an additional debtor name. Took about 3 business days to show up in the system, then another week for the bank's legal department to verify and acknowledge the lien. Much better than risking a court challenge later.
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Finley Garrett
Before you panic, check if ABC Manufacturing LLC filed any DBAs or alternate business names with the state. Sometimes companies register multiple variations of their name for different purposes. If there's a registered connection between the two names, your original UCC-1 might still be valid. But yeah, filing the amendment is probably the safest route regardless.
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Madison Tipne
•Good point about checking DBAs. Also worth looking at their articles of incorporation to see if there were any name changes or amendments that might explain the discrepancy.
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Holly Lascelles
•THIS IS WHY I HATE DEALING WITH UCCS!!! Every little detail can blow up your whole security interest. The system is set up to screw lenders over technical BS instead of focusing on the actual business relationship.
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Finley Garrett
•I get the frustration, but the rules exist for good reason. Third parties need to be able to find existing liens when they're doing due diligence. Still doesn't make it less annoying when you're dealing with it though.
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Malia Ponder
I actually discovered a tool that could have caught this issue before it became a problem. Certana.ai has a document verification system where you can upload your loan docs, UCC filings, and bank account info to cross-check for exactly these kinds of name inconsistencies. Wish I'd known about it earlier - would have saved me from a similar nightmare with a client who had three different versions of their business name across various documents.
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Aliyah Debovski
•How does that work exactly? You just upload PDFs and it spots the differences?
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Malia Ponder
•Yeah, pretty much. You upload your charter docs, UCC-1, bank account agreements, whatever, and it automatically flags any name discrepancies or inconsistencies. Would have caught this ABC Manufacturing vs ABC Manufacturing Group issue immediately.
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Ally Tailer
•That's actually brilliant for due diligence. Name matching is such a common source of UCC problems, having automated verification would prevent a lot of headaches.
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Kyle Wallace
File the UCC-3 amendment immediately. Don't wait. I've seen too many cases where banks successfully challenged liens based on name discrepancies, and you'll kick yourself if that $180K becomes uncollectable because of a filing technicality. The amendment should list both versions of the name to cover all bases.
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Callum Savage
•You're right, better safe than sorry. Going to file the amendment first thing Monday morning. Do I need to include any specific language about the name variation or just add it as an additional debtor name?
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Kyle Wallace
•Just add it as an additional debtor name. The UCC-3 form has a section for adding debtor names. No special language needed, just make sure you use the exact name as it appears on the bank account.
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Ryder Ross
Quick question - when you filed the original UCC-1, did you search under both versions of the name to see if there were other liens? Sometimes companies use different name variations strategically to avoid detection of existing security interests.
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Callum Savage
•We only searched under the name on our loan documents, which was ABC Manufacturing LLC. Didn't even know about the Group version until we tried to levy the account. That's a good point about strategic name variations though.
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Gianni Serpent
•This is exactly why proper due diligence is so important. You should always search under every possible variation of a business name before lending.
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Henry Delgado
•easier said than done when the borrower doesn't disclose all their name variations upfront
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Olivia Kay
Had a client try to pull this same trick - using slightly different business names for different accounts to make it harder for creditors to find assets. Courts generally don't look favorably on that kind of behavior, but it doesn't solve your immediate UCC problem. Still need that amendment filed.
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Holly Lascelles
•So frustrating how debtors can game the system like this while honest lenders get screwed over paperwork technicalities.
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Joshua Hellan
•Well to be fair, we don't know if this was intentional or just sloppy business practices. Could be they started as ABC Manufacturing LLC and added Group later for marketing reasons without thinking about the legal implications.
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Jibriel Kohn
Whatever you do, document everything. Save screenshots of the bank account showing the name, get copies of any state filings showing name variations, keep records of when you filed the amendment. If this ends up in litigation, you'll want a clear paper trail showing you acted reasonably once you discovered the discrepancy.
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Callum Savage
•Good advice. Already started pulling together all the documentation. Bank statements, original loan docs, UCC search results, etc. Hopefully the amendment will resolve everything without needing litigation.
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Edison Estevez
•Smart move. Documentation is everything in UCC disputes.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
•Also might want to have your attorney review everything before filing the amendment, just to make sure you're covering all the bases properly.
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James Johnson
I actually ran into something similar and used Certana.ai to verify all my documents were consistent before filing. It caught a bunch of small discrepancies I never would have noticed manually. Really saved my butt when the debtor tried to challenge the lien later. The automated document checking is incredibly thorough.
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Callum Savage
•That sounds like exactly what we needed from the beginning. How easy is it to use?
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James Johnson
•Super simple - just upload your PDFs and it does all the cross-checking automatically. Takes a few minutes and flags any inconsistencies. Would have caught your name issue immediately.
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Sophia Rodriguez
Update us when you get the amendment filed and processed. This kind of case study is really valuable for others dealing with similar name discrepancy issues. The more examples we have of how banks and courts handle these situations, the better prepared we all are.
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Callum Savage
•Will definitely post an update once everything is resolved. Hopefully it'll be straightforward and the bank will acknowledge the amended lien without any further challenges.
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Mia Green
•Thanks for sharing this situation. It's a good reminder for all of us to be extra careful about debtor name accuracy from the start.
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Emma Bianchi
•Agreed, this thread has been really educational about the importance of name matching in UCC filings.
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