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UCC 1-208 Amendment Filing - Debtor Name Change Issue

I'm dealing with a complicated UCC 1-208 situation and hoping someone here has experience with this. We filed an original UCC-1 financing statement last year for a commercial equipment loan, but now the debtor has undergone a corporate name change and we need to file a UCC-3 amendment. The problem is that the debtor's new legal name is significantly different from what's on the original filing, and I'm worried about the continuity of our security interest. The original filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but they've changed to 'Advanced Building Components LLC' after a restructuring. Our legal department is concerned about the 'seriously misleading' standard under UCC 1-208 and whether we need to file a new UCC-1 instead of just amending. The loan is for $850,000 in manufacturing equipment and we can't afford any gaps in perfection. Has anyone dealt with this type of name change scenario? What's the best practice for maintaining continuous perfection when the debtor name changes this substantially?

This is definitely a tricky UCC 1-208 situation. The 'seriously misleading' test is crucial here. If a search under the new name wouldn't reasonably discover your original filing, then you're looking at a gap in perfection. With names as different as 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions' vs 'Advanced Building Components', I'd be concerned about the search logic picking it up. You might want to file both a UCC-3 amendment AND a new UCC-1 just to be safe, then terminate the old one after the new one is filed.

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Dylan Fisher

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Agree completely. The safe harbor approach is always file the new UCC-1 first, then amend or terminate the old one. Better to have overlapping coverage than a gap, especially with that loan amount.

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Edwards Hugo

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But doesn't that create potential priority issues if someone else files between your amendment and new filing? I thought the whole point of UCC-3 amendments was to maintain the original priority date.

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That's why you file the new UCC-1 FIRST, then terminate the old one. The new filing gets its own priority date, but you don't lose perfection during the transition. It's not about maintaining the original priority - it's about maintaining continuous perfection.

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Gianna Scott

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I ran into something similar last year and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the proposed UCC-3 amendment, and it cross-checks whether the name change would create search issues. It flagged our debtor name change as potentially problematic and we ended up filing a new UCC-1 instead. Saved us from a potential perfection gap that could have cost the client their security interest.

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That sounds really helpful. Does it actually simulate the secretary of state search logic to test whether the names would be discoverable?

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Gianna Scott

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Yes, it runs the name through various search algorithms to see if there's a reasonable chance a searcher would find your original filing under the new name. Much more reliable than trying to guess whether the change is 'seriously misleading' on your own.

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Alfredo Lugo

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How accurate is that tool though? I mean, every state has different search logic. What works in Delaware might not work in Texas.

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Gianna Scott

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Fair point, but it covers the major variations in state search systems. For a $850k loan, the small cost of verification is worth avoiding the risk of losing perfection over a name change issue.

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Sydney Torres

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Wait, I'm confused about something. If the debtor changed their legal name officially, don't you HAVE to file a UCC-3 amendment within a certain timeframe? I thought there was a 4-month rule or something like that for name changes.

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You're thinking of the 4-month rule, but that's for when the change would make the financing statement seriously misleading. If the name change ISN'T seriously misleading, you don't have to file anything. But if it IS seriously misleading, you have 4 months to file an amendment or you lose perfection against subsequent purchasers.

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Sydney Torres

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So the question is whether 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions' to 'Advanced Building Components' is seriously misleading. That seems like a pretty big change to me.

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Caleb Bell

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The test isn't how big the change looks to us - it's whether a search under the new name would reasonably discover the original filing. Search logic looks at things like common words, abbreviations, punctuation. Sometimes big changes aren't seriously misleading and small changes are.

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I hate these name change situations! The UCC rules are so unclear about what makes a change 'seriously misleading.' We had a client change from 'Smith Industries Inc.' to 'Smith Manufacturing Inc.' and the secretary of state said that was seriously misleading because 'Industries' and 'Manufacturing' are different enough that searchers might miss it. But then another client changed from 'Johnson & Associates' to 'Johnson and Associates' (just the ampersand) and that WASN'T seriously misleading. Where's the consistency?!

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Rhett Bowman

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Tell me about it. And good luck getting a straight answer from most secretary of state offices about their search logic. They act like it's a trade secret.

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Abigail Patel

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That's exactly why I always file new UCC-1s for any name change that's more than just punctuation or abbreviation. Not worth the risk of getting it wrong and having to explain to a client why their security interest is no longer perfected.

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Daniel White

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But then you lose your original priority date. If there are other liens filed between your original UCC-1 and the new one, you could end up subordinate.

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Nolan Carter

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For what it's worth, I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and I've never seen a name change from something like 'ABC Manufacturing Solutions' to 'Advanced Building Components' that wouldn't be considered seriously misleading. The only common word is 'LLC' at the end. A search under the new name would never find the old filing. You need to treat this as a seriously misleading change.

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That's what I was afraid of. So we definitely need to file something within 4 months of the name change. The question is whether to file a UCC-3 amendment or a new UCC-1.

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Nolan Carter

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Given how different the names are, I'd file a new UCC-1. The amendment approach only works if you're confident the amended filing would be discoverable under the new name. With names this different, I wouldn't bet an $850k security interest on it.

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Natalia Stone

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Agreed. File the new UCC-1 with the current debtor name, then once it's accepted, terminate the old one. Clean break, no ambiguity.

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Tasia Synder

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Just went through this exact scenario with one of our SBA loans. Debtor changed from 'Coastal Equipment Rentals LLC' to 'Atlantic Machinery Solutions LLC'. We agonized over whether to amend or file new, finally decided to file a new UCC-1. Bank examiner later told us that was the right call because the names were too different for the amendment to be safe. Sometimes the conservative approach is worth it.

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Good point about bank examiners. They're going to look at this stuff during audits and if they think you took unnecessary risks with perfection, that's not going to go well.

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Did you have any issues with the timing? Like, did you file the new UCC-1 immediately when you found out about the name change?

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Tasia Synder

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We filed within about 6 weeks of learning about the change. The 4-month rule gives you some breathing room, but I wouldn't wait until the last minute. Too much can go wrong with filings - rejection for wrong form, processing delays, etc.

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Ellie Perry

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One thing to consider is whether the debtor did this name change as part of a merger or other corporate transaction. If it's a merger, you might have different rules to worry about. UCC 9-508 has specific provisions for when a debtor becomes bound by another entity's security agreement. Just want to make sure you're not missing anything beyond just the name change issue.

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Good catch. It was described as a 'restructuring' but I should confirm whether that involved any merger or acquisition activity. Could definitely complicate the analysis.

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Landon Morgan

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Yeah, if it's a true merger you might need to look at the surviving entity's name and whether your security interest attached to the merged entity automatically. Whole different set of rules.

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Teresa Boyd

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I actually used Certana.ai's verification system for a similar name change issue last month. Uploaded our original UCC-1 and the corporate documents showing the name change, and it flagged potential search issues. The analysis showed that the names were different enough that a standard search wouldn't find the connection. We ended up filing a new UCC-1 based on that analysis and it gave us a lot more confidence in our perfection strategy.

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Lourdes Fox

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That's interesting. Did it give you any guidance on timing or just flag the search issue?

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Teresa Boyd

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It focused on the search discoverability issue, but the system also reminded us about the 4-month rule for seriously misleading changes. Really helpful to have all the relevant deadlines and requirements in one place.

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Bruno Simmons

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Quick question - when you file the new UCC-1, are you using the exact same collateral description as the original filing? Sometimes name changes happen along with business changes and you want to make sure your collateral description still covers what you intended to secure.

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Great point. The collateral is still the same manufacturing equipment, but I should double-check that our description doesn't reference the old company name in any way.

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Definitely check that. I've seen collateral descriptions that said something like 'all equipment located at ABC Manufacturing's facility' and then when ABC changed its name, there was ambiguity about whether the description was still accurate.

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Zane Gray

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That's why I always use generic descriptions like 'all equipment' or 'equipment described in attached schedule' rather than tying the description to company-specific references.

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Bottom line advice: with an $850k loan and names that different, file a new UCC-1 with the current legal name. Don't mess around with amendments when the name change is this substantial. File it soon, get your confirmation, then terminate the old filing. Sleep better at night knowing your perfection is solid.

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Exactly. The cost of a new filing is nothing compared to the risk of losing perfection on an $850k security interest.

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Monique Byrd

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And document everything. Keep records of when you learned about the name change, when you filed the new UCC-1, everything. Bank examiners love documentation.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like the consensus is pretty clear - file a new UCC-1 rather than risk the amendment approach with names this different. I'll get that started this week. Really appreciate all the practical guidance from people who've been through similar situations.

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Lia Quinn

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Good choice. Better safe than sorry with UCC perfection issues.

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Haley Stokes

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Let us know how it goes! Always good to hear back on how these situations resolve.

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