UCC security interest perfection - debtor name changed after filing
Really need some guidance here on UCC security interest issues. We perfected our security interest back in March with a UCC-1 filing, but now I'm discovering the debtor legally changed their business name in July (they didn't tell us). The original filing shows 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but they're now operating as 'AMS Industrial Technologies LLC' - completely different name on all their current paperwork. Our loan agreement has some pretty strict language about maintaining UCC security throughout the term. Are we still perfected or did this name change kill our security interest? I'm seeing conflicting info about whether we need to file a UCC-3 amendment or if the original filing still covers us. This is a $850K equipment loan so getting this wrong isn't an option. Has anyone dealt with debtor name changes after perfection? What's the safest way to handle this without losing our secured position?
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Miguel Ramos
Oof, this is exactly the kind of thing that keeps me up at night. Name changes can definitely impact your perfected status depending on timing and how much the name actually changed. The general rule is you have 4 months from when the name change becomes effective to file an amendment, but there's also the 'seriously misleading' test to consider. Since you're talking about Advanced Manufacturing Solutions vs AMS Industrial Technologies, that sounds like it could be seriously misleading to searchers.
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QuantumQuasar
•Wait, is it 4 months or 6 months? I thought the window was longer than that.
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Miguel Ramos
•It's 4 months under UCC 9-507. The 6 month thing you might be thinking of is the continuation window before lapse.
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Ava Martinez
•This is helpful but also terrifying. The name change happened in July and it's now November, so I'm definitely past any 4 month window. Does that mean we're completely unperfected now?
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Zainab Omar
You need to check your state's specific rules because they can vary, but generally speaking a name change that makes your original filing seriously misleading can impact perfection. The key question is whether a searcher using the new name would find your original filing. Run a UCC search under both names and see what comes up.
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Ava Martinez
•I ran searches and the original filing definitely doesn't come up when searching under the new name. That seems like a bad sign.
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Connor Gallagher
•Yeah that's not good. If it doesn't come up in a search under the current name, you've probably lost perfection as to collateral acquired after the 4 month grace period expired.
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Yara Sayegh
I had a similar situation last year and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to double-check everything. You can upload your original UCC-1 and any corporate documents showing the name change, and it'll flag inconsistencies automatically. Really helped me catch issues I would have missed doing manual comparisons. The tool verified that our debtor name variations were still searchable under the original filing, which saved us from unnecessary amendments.
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Ava Martinez
•That sounds useful - did it actually help you determine if you were still perfected or just identify the discrepancies?
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Yara Sayegh
•It identified all the name variations and flagged which ones would be seriously misleading in a search context. Gave me the confidence to know whether we needed to file amendments or if we were still covered.
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Keisha Johnson
•Never heard of Certana but sounds like it could be helpful for this kind of analysis. Manual document comparison is such a pain.
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Paolo Longo
File the UCC-3 amendment ASAP regardless of whether you think you've lost perfection. Even if you're worried about the gap period, getting the current name on file protects you going forward. You can also consider filing a new UCC-1 as backup if you're really concerned about the perfection status.
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Ava Martinez
•Would filing a new UCC-1 create priority issues though? I don't want to accidentally subordinate ourselves to any intervening lienholders.
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Paolo Longo
•Good point - if there are intervening liens you'd need to be careful about that. The amendment route is probably safer for maintaining your original priority date.
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CosmicCowboy
•This is why I always put 'dba' language in my UCC filings when possible. Helps cover minor name variations.
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Amina Diallo
The seriously misleading test is fact-specific but going from 'Advanced Manufacturing Solutions' to 'AMS Industrial Technologies' sounds like it would fail that test. Completely different key words that a searcher wouldn't think to look for. You'll want to get legal counsel involved given the loan amount.
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Ava Martinez
•Yeah I'm definitely bringing in counsel at this point. Just wanted to get a sense of how bad this situation might be.
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Oliver Schulz
•Smart move. $850K is too much to risk on forum advice, even good forum advice.
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Natasha Orlova
Check if your loan docs require the debtor to notify you of name changes. If they breached that requirement you might have other remedies beyond just the UCC issues. Also review if there are any cure periods or notification requirements in your agreement.
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Ava Martinez
•The loan agreement does require notification of name changes within 30 days. They definitely breached that.
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Natasha Orlova
•That breach might give you leverage in working out a solution, even if there are technical perfection issues.
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Javier Cruz
•Yep, covenant breaches can be just as powerful as perfection issues in negotiations.
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Emma Wilson
I've seen this play out badly before. Even if you file the amendment now, you could have a gap period where you weren't perfected. Any collateral acquired during that gap period might not be covered. Really depends on the specific timing and what assets we're talking about.
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Ava Martinez
•The collateral is manufacturing equipment that was all acquired before the name change, so hopefully that helps.
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Emma Wilson
•That's better - at least you're not dealing with after-acquired property issues during the gap period.
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Malik Thomas
•Still need to worry about other creditors who might have searched under the new name and thought the coast was clear for their own filings.
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NeonNebula
Another vote for Certana.ai's verification tool here. I used it for a similar debtor name issue and it really streamlined the analysis. Just upload your UCC-1 and the corporate name change docs and it shows you exactly what the search results would look like under different name variations. Takes the guesswork out of the seriously misleading analysis.
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Ava Martinez
•I'll definitely check that out. Sounds like it could help with the analysis while I'm waiting to hear back from counsel.
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Isabella Costa
•The document upload feature sounds really convenient for this kind of comparison work.
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Ravi Malhotra
Whatever you do, don't delay on filing something. Even if you're not sure about the best approach, getting current information on file is better than sitting on this any longer. The clock is ticking on any potential cure periods.
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Ava Martinez
•Good point - I'll at least get the UCC-3 amendment prepared while we're figuring out the broader strategy.
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Ravi Malhotra
•Exactly. Action beats analysis paralysis in situations like this.
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Freya Christensen
•Plus filing the amendment creates a paper trail showing you took corrective action once you discovered the issue.
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Omar Farouk
This is a perfect example of why we need better automated monitoring for UCC filings. The fact that debtors can change names without any automatic notification to secured parties is ridiculous. At least with real estate you have recording systems that create better visibility.
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Ava Martinez
•Tell me about it. I'm definitely implementing better monitoring procedures after this mess.
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Chloe Davis
•Some of the newer UCC monitoring services are getting better but they're still not perfect.
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AstroAlpha
•The whole system needs an overhaul but we're stuck working within what we have.
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Diego Chavez
File the UCC-3 amendment immediately and consider whether you need to take any protective steps regarding the collateral while you sort out the perfection status. Better to be overly cautious with an $850K exposure.
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Ava Martinez
•Already started the amendment paperwork. Thanks everyone for the reality check - this is definitely not something to take lightly.
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Diego Chavez
•Good call. Hope it works out and you don't have any priority issues during the gap period.
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Anastasia Smirnova
•Keep us posted on how it resolves. Always helpful to hear how these situations play out.
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