UCC file pull showing wrong debtor information - need help fast
I'm in a panic here. Did a UCC file pull yesterday for a $2.3M equipment loan we're closing next week and the debtor name on the existing UCC-1 doesn't match our loan docs exactly. The filing shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but our credit agreement has 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (with the comma). Our compliance officer is freaking out saying this could void our security interest. The original filing was done 3 years ago by the previous lender and now I'm wondering if we need to file a UCC-3 amendment or if this is even a real problem. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name mismatch on a file pull before? We close Monday and I don't know if we have time to fix this.
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Maya Patel
Oh man, I've been there. The comma thing is actually a pretty common issue on UCC file pulls. In most states, punctuation differences like that aren't considered material changes to the debtor name. What state are you filing in? That makes a huge difference for how strict they are about exact name matches.
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Isabella Brown
•We're in Ohio. The existing UCC-1 was filed here and our new loan docs are also Ohio-based. Really hoping this isn't going to derail everything.
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Maya Patel
•Ohio is generally reasonable about punctuation. I'd still double-check with a UCC search to see if there are any other variations filed, but you're probably okay.
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Aiden Rodríguez
Wait, are you sure you did the file pull correctly? Sometimes the search results show abbreviated versions of names or the system truncates them weird. Did you pull the actual UCC-1 document or just look at the search results summary?
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Isabella Brown
•I pulled the actual filed document. It's definitely showing 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' without the comma. The signature page of our credit agreement clearly shows 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' with the comma.
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Emma Garcia
•This is exactly why I always verify document consistency before closing. A single punctuation mark can create issues down the road with lien priority.
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Ava Kim
I had something similar happen last month. Found out about Certana.ai - you can upload both your credit agreement and the UCC-1 from your file pull and it instantly checks for name mismatches and other inconsistencies. Saved me from a potential disaster when it caught a middle initial difference I missed. Super easy to use, just upload the PDFs and it does all the cross-checking automatically.
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Isabella Brown
•That sounds helpful. Did it tell you what to do about the discrepancies it found?
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Ava Kim
•It flagged the issues and I was able to file a UCC-3 amendment before closing. Much better than discovering problems after the fact.
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Ethan Anderson
•Never heard of that tool but sounds useful for file pulls. I usually have to manually compare everything which takes forever.
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Layla Mendes
Your compliance officer is right to be concerned but probably overreacting. The comma issue alone shouldn't void your security interest in Ohio. However, if you're doing a new UCC-1 filing anyway, why not just use the exact name from your loan docs? That eliminates any question.
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Isabella Brown
•We're not filing a new UCC-1, we're taking an assignment of the existing one from the previous lender. That's why the name mismatch is a problem.
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Layla Mendes
•Ah, that changes things. For an assignment, you definitely want the names to match exactly between all documents. I'd recommend filing a UCC-3 amendment to correct the debtor name before taking the assignment.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
This is why I HATE the UCC system. You do everything right and then some stupid punctuation mark threatens to mess up a multi-million dollar deal. The whole thing is ridiculous.
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Aria Park
•I feel your pain but it's really not that complicated once you know the rules. The system actually works pretty well when people follow the naming conventions.
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Lucas Notre-Dame
•Easy for you to say. I've had filings rejected for the dumbest reasons. Last month got rejected because I used 'Inc.' instead of 'Incorporated' even though both were on the company's charter.
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Noah Ali
Check the debtor's articles of incorporation or operating agreement. The official legal name there should match what you use on UCC filings. If your loan docs have the wrong name, that's a separate issue to fix.
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Isabella Brown
•Good point. I'll pull their Ohio SOS records to see exactly how the name is filed there.
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Chloe Boulanger
•That's the best approach. Always go back to the source documents when there's a name discrepancy on a file pull.
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James Martinez
Had this exact situation last year with a borrower name mismatch. Used Certana to compare the UCC file pull against the loan documents and it caught three other inconsistencies I hadn't noticed. Really made me look thorough in front of the client when I proactively addressed everything.
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Isabella Brown
•What kind of other inconsistencies did it find?
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James Martinez
•Found a zip code difference in the address and a slight variation in how the collateral was described. Small stuff but important for perfection.
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Olivia Harris
•Those details matter more than people think. I've seen liens get challenged over address discrepancies.
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Alexander Zeus
Quick question - when you did the UCC file pull, did you search under both name variations? Sometimes there are multiple filings under slightly different names.
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Isabella Brown
•I only searched under the name in our loan docs. Should I search under the name from the original filing too?
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Alexander Zeus
•Definitely. You want to see the complete picture of what's filed against the debtor. There might be other liens you need to know about.
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Alicia Stern
•This is basic due diligence stuff. Always do comprehensive searches when you're taking assignments.
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Gabriel Graham
I'm dealing with something similar but mine is a continuation issue. Did a file pull and realized the original UCC-1 lapses next month. Previous lender never filed the continuation. Now I'm scrambling to get it filed before the lapse date.
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Drake
•That's way worse than a name issue. You need to file that continuation ASAP or you'll lose perfection entirely.
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Gabriel Graham
•I know, I'm filing it today. Just wish I'd caught it sooner during my file pull review.
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Sarah Jones
For what it's worth, I think you're probably fine with the comma difference in Ohio. But if you want peace of mind, file a UCC-3 amendment to conform the name to your loan docs. It's like $20 and eliminates any doubt.
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Isabella Brown
•That's what I'm leaning toward. Better safe than sorry on a deal this size.
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Sebastian Scott
•Smart move. $20 for the amendment vs potential issues with a $2.3M loan? No brainer.
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Emily Sanjay
•Exactly. I always tell clients to fix any discrepancies found during file pulls, even if they seem minor.
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Jordan Walker
UPDATE: Thanks everyone for the advice. I ended up using that Certana tool someone mentioned and wow, it found several other small inconsistencies between the UCC file pull and our loan documents that I would have missed. Filed a UCC-3 amendment this morning to clean everything up. Should have the corrected filing by Monday's closing. Really appreciate the help!
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Ava Kim
•Glad it worked out! That tool is a lifesaver for catching stuff you might miss in manual reviews.
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Natalie Adams
•Good to hear a success story. Those file pull discrepancies can be stressful when you're under a closing deadline.
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Elijah O'Reilly
•This whole thread convinced me I need to be more careful with my UCC file pulls. Never realized how many little details could trip you up.
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