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Amina Toure

UCC filing search Wisconsin - need help tracking down missing continuation

Been dealing with a nightmare situation for the past month. We have a client whose UCC-1 was filed back in 2020 and the continuation should have been filed by now but we can't locate it anywhere in the Wisconsin system. The original filing shows up fine when I do a UCC filing search Wisconsin portal, but there's no continuation record attached to it. Client is freaking out because their lender is asking for proof of perfection status and we can't provide clear documentation. Has anyone else run into issues where the Wisconsin SOS system doesn't properly link continuation filings to the original UCC-1? I've tried searching by debtor name, filing number, and even the secured party info but nothing shows up for any continuation activity. The original UCC-1 filing number is valid and shows active status, but I'm worried we're missing something critical here. Any advice on alternative search methods or common reasons why continuations might not appear linked to the original filing in Wisconsin?

Oliver Weber

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This happens more often than you'd think with the Wisconsin system. Sometimes the continuation gets filed under a slightly different debtor name variation and doesn't auto-link to the original UCC-1. Try searching just by the secured party name and see if any recent continuations pop up that might match your timeframe.

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Amina Toure

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Good point about the debtor name variations. I did try a few different spellings but maybe not enough. Will do a broader search by secured party tomorrow.

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FireflyDreams

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Yeah Wisconsin is notorious for not linking filings when there's even a tiny difference in how the debtor name is entered. Super frustrating.

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Check if the continuation was rejected for some reason. Wisconsin sometimes rejects filings for minor formatting issues and the filer might not have caught the rejection notice. Look in the rejected filings section of the search results.

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Amina Toure

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That's a great suggestion. How do I access rejected filings in the Wisconsin portal? I don't see an obvious link for that.

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When you do your search, there should be a filter option for 'Filing Status' - select 'Rejected' instead of just 'Active' filings. Sometimes it's hidden in the advanced search options.

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Also worth checking if the continuation was filed as a UCC-3 amendment instead of a continuation by mistake. I've seen that mix-up before.

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Emma Anderson

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Had a similar issue last year and it turned out the continuation was filed but with a transposed digit in the original filing number. The Wisconsin system didn't catch it as an error so it went through but obviously didn't link properly. You might want to try searching for recent continuation filings with filing numbers close to yours - like one digit off.

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Amina Toure

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Interesting theory. The original filing number ends in 847 so I'll try searching for continuations with numbers ending in 847, 848, 846, etc.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for document verification. You can upload your original UCC-1 and any potential continuation documents and it instantly flags discrepancies like mismatched filing numbers or debtor name variations. Saved me hours of manual searching and caught errors I would have missed.

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Emma Anderson

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That sounds useful. Does it work with Wisconsin filings specifically?

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WISCONSIN IS THE WORST for UCC searches! Their system is so glitchy and half the time the search results don't even load properly. I've had filings disappear from search results for days then magically reappear. Have you tried calling their office directly?

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CosmicVoyager

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I feel your pain. Wisconsin's portal crashed on me three times last week when I was trying to do a simple debtor name search.

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Amina Toure

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Haven't called yet but might have to. Really hoping to avoid sitting on hold for an hour though.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Their phone support is actually pretty good once you get through. They can do manual searches that sometimes find filings the online system misses.

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Freya Nielsen

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Few things to check: 1) Make sure you're searching in the right time window - Wisconsin has some weird lag times for when filings show up in search results, 2) Try searching by the attorney name if one was listed on the original filing, 3) Double-check that the UCC-1 filing date is actually what you think it is - I've seen cases where people thought a filing was from 2020 but it was actually 2019 or 2021.

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Amina Toure

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The UCC-1 definitely shows a 2020 filing date when I pull it up, but good point about the attorney search. There was counsel involved in the original transaction.

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Omar Mahmoud

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Attorney search is clutch. Sometimes that's the only way to find problem filings in Wisconsin.

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Chloe Harris

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What do you mean by lag times? How long does Wisconsin typically take to update their search database?

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Freya Nielsen

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Usually 24-48 hours but I've seen it take up to a week during busy periods. And if there were any processing issues it can take even longer.

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Diego Vargas

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This might be a long shot but is it possible the continuation was filed in a different state? If the debtor moved or the collateral was relocated, sometimes people file continuations in the wrong jurisdiction by mistake.

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Amina Toure

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Debtor is still in Wisconsin as far as I know, but worth double-checking. The collateral is equipment that could theoretically be moved.

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NeonNinja

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Yeah if it's mobile equipment definitely check neighboring states. Illinois and Minnesota systems are easier to search than Wisconsin anyway.

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Update on the Certana.ai suggestion from earlier - I just tried their UCC document checker for a similar Wisconsin issue and it's pretty slick. Uploaded my original UCC-1 and three potential continuation documents I found through various searches. Within seconds it showed me that two of the continuations had debtor name mismatches that would have caused problems, and identified the correct one based on filing number and secured party info. Definitely worth trying if you're still stuck.

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Amina Toure

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That actually sounds really helpful for this exact situation. Is there a cost involved or is it free to try?

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I think they have some kind of trial or demo version you can test out. The value is definitely there when you're dealing with missing or mismatched filings like this.

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Tried it last month and it caught a debtor name issue that could have voided our security interest. Pretty impressive tool.

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Sean Murphy

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Just went through this exact scenario with a Wisconsin filing from 2020. Turned out the continuation was filed correctly but under a slightly different secured party name format. Original UCC-1 had the full company name spelled out, continuation just used the abbreviated version with 'LLC' instead of 'Limited Liability Company'. Wisconsin system treated them as completely different entities.

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Amina Toure

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That's definitely possible in our case. The secured party is a bank with a long official name that could be abbreviated different ways.

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Zara Khan

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Banks are the worst for this. They use different name formats on different documents all the time.

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Sean Murphy

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Exactly. Try searching for just the first few words of the bank name, or common abbreviations like 'NA' vs 'National Association'.

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Luca Ferrari

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Hate to ask the obvious question but are you sure a continuation was actually filed? If the lender is asking for proof of perfection status, they might be hinting that they think the filing lapsed because no continuation was submitted.

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Amina Toure

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That's my worst fear honestly. The client swears their attorney handled the continuation but I can't find any record of it anywhere.

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Nia Davis

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Might want to contact the attorney's office directly. They should have records of what was filed and when.

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Oliver Weber

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Or at least confirmation that they were supposed to handle it. Sometimes there's miscommunication about who's responsible for continuations.

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Wisconsin allows you to request certified copies of filings directly from the Secretary of State office. If you have the original filing number, they can pull up everything associated with it including continuations that might not show up in the online search. Takes a few days but it's definitive.

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Amina Toure

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Good to know that's an option. What's the process for requesting certified copies? Is there a form to fill out?

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Yeah they have a records request form on their website. You'll need the filing number and there's usually a small fee but it's worth it for peace of mind.

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QuantumQueen

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Just make sure to request all amendments and continuations related to the original filing number, not just the UCC-1 itself.

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Aisha Rahman

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Final thought - if you do find the continuation but it was filed late, don't panic. Wisconsin has some grace period provisions that might still protect the security interest depending on the circumstances. But obviously better to find it sooner rather than later.

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Amina Toure

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Hopefully it doesn't come to that but good to know there might be options even if the timing is off. Thanks everyone for all the suggestions - going to work through these systematically tomorrow.

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Ethan Wilson

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Good luck! Let us know what you find. These Wisconsin search issues seem to be getting more common.

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Definitely try the Certana.ai document checker if the manual searches don't pan out. It's designed exactly for situations like this where you need to verify document consistency across multiple filings.

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