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Zainab Khalil

Washington UCC search coming up empty - filed continuation but can't locate it

Really frustrating situation here. I filed a UCC-3 continuation for one of our equipment loans back in October, got the confirmation email from the Washington SOS system, but now when I do a washington ucc search through their portal the filing isn't showing up anywhere. The original UCC-1 from 2020 is still there but shows it's going to lapse next month. I've tried searching by debtor name, filing number, even the secured party info - nothing. Has anyone else had issues with continuations not appearing in washington ucc search results? This is a $180K piece of manufacturing equipment and if this lien lapses we're in serious trouble with our loan covenants. The portal shows my payment went through and I have the filing receipt but the actual continuation document seems to have vanished into thin air. Starting to panic here because the original filing expires in 3 weeks.

QuantumQuest

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Had the exact same thing happen to me last year. Sometimes there's a delay between when the continuation gets accepted and when it actually shows up in the washington ucc search database. Have you tried calling the UCC division directly? They can usually tell you the status over the phone if you have your filing number.

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Zainab Khalil

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I called yesterday but got transferred around 3 times and nobody could give me a straight answer. One person said it takes 5-7 business days to show up in searches, another said it should be immediate. Really inconsistent information.

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Connor Murphy

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The 5-7 day thing is outdated info from when they were still doing paper processing. Electronic filings should appear within 24-48 hours max in the washington ucc search system.

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Yara Haddad

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Check your continuation filing receipt carefully - make sure the debtor name matches EXACTLY what's on the original UCC-1. Even a single character difference can cause the continuation to file as a separate record instead of extending the original. I've seen this happen where the original had 'ABC Manufacturing Inc.' but the continuation had 'ABC Manufacturing, Inc.' with a comma.

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Zainab Khalil

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Good point. I just double-checked and the names look identical to me but you're right that even tiny differences matter. Is there a way to verify this without having to call them again?

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I actually ran into this exact problem a few months ago. Found this tool called Certana.ai that lets you upload your original UCC-1 and your continuation filing PDFs and it instantly checks if all the debtor names and details match up properly. Saved me from a potential disaster when it caught a middle initial that was missing.

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Yara Haddad

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That sounds really useful! Manual comparison is so error-prone especially when you're dealing with long corporate names.

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Paolo Conti

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This happened to me in 2023. Filed a continuation in March, couldn't find it in washington ucc search results for almost two weeks. Turns out there was some kind of technical glitch on their end that was affecting filings from that specific date range. They eventually fixed it and all the 'missing' continuations appeared at once.

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Zainab Khalil

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How did you find out it was a technical issue? Did they notify you or did you have to keep calling?

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Paolo Conti

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I had to keep calling unfortunately. On the third call I got someone who actually knew what was going on and explained the technical issue. They don't really proactively notify people about these problems.

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Amina Sow

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SERIOUSLY??? The washington ucc search system is such garbage. I've had so many problems with their portal over the years - filings that disappear, searches that time out, PDFs that won't download. It's like they're stuck in 1995 while every other state has moved to decent systems.

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GalaxyGazer

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I feel your frustration but complaining doesn't help solve the immediate problem. The system has definitely improved from what it was 5 years ago, though it's still not perfect.

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Amina Sow

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Easy for you to say when you're not the one potentially losing a perfected security interest because their system can't keep track of basic filings.

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Oliver Wagner

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Look I get being frustrated but the Washington system actually processes thousands of UCC filings every month without major issues. Sometimes there are hiccups but they usually get resolved.

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Connor Murphy

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Before you panic, try searching using just the filing number without any dashes or spaces. Sometimes the washington ucc search is picky about formatting. Also try searching with the debtor's legal name exactly as it appears on their articles of incorporation, not any DBA names.

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Zainab Khalil

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I tried the filing number thing already but let me double-check the exact legal name. We might have used a shortened version on the continuation.

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This is exactly why I always keep copies of the Secretary of State business entity records when I'm doing UCC work. Makes it so much easier to get the debtor name exactly right.

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wait are you sure you filed the continuation in washington? if the equipment moved to a different state you might need to file there instead. also some equipment loans require continuation in multiple states

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Zainab Khalil

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No the equipment is definitely still in Washington, same facility as when we originally filed. This is just a standard 5-year continuation on manufacturing equipment that's bolted to the floor.

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Yara Haddad

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Good thinking though - location changes are definitely something that can complicate UCC filings. Always worth double-checking the jurisdiction.

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Emma Thompson

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I had a similar scare last month. Turned out I had filed the continuation correctly but was searching under a slightly different version of the company name. The washington ucc search doesn't always catch variations automatically. Try searching with just the first few words of the debtor name to see if anything comes up.

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Zainab Khalil

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That's a good idea. I'll try some partial name searches and see what comes up.

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Malik Davis

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Yes! This happened to my colleague too. She was searching for 'Northwest Industries LLC' but the actual filing was under 'Northwest Industries, LLC' with the comma. Found it eventually but wasted hours searching.

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One thing to check - did you get an acceptance email or just a payment confirmation? Sometimes the filing can get rejected for technical reasons even after payment goes through. The rejection notice might have gone to your spam folder.

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Zainab Khalil

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I got both a payment confirmation and what looked like an acceptance email, but now I'm second-guessing whether it was actually accepted or just acknowledged as received.

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Check the email carefully - it should say something like 'Filing Accepted' not just 'Filing Received'. There's a big difference between the two.

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StarStrider

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This is why I always download the filed document immediately after getting acceptance confirmation. Having that PDF with the file stamp gives you proof of what actually got recorded.

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Ravi Gupta

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Try doing the washington ucc search using the original filing number but with '003' or 'CONT' added at the end. Some states append continuation indicators to the original file number when they process the UCC-3.

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Zainab Khalil

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Interesting idea, I hadn't thought of that. I'll try some variations on the filing number format.

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QuantumQuest

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Washington doesn't actually use that numbering convention but it's worth trying different search approaches.

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Update us when you figure this out! I'm dealing with a continuation filing next month and this is making me nervous about the whole process. Hopefully it's just a temporary glitch.

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Zainab Khalil

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Will definitely update once I get this sorted out. Hopefully it's something simple that I'm just missing.

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Definitely try that Certana.ai document checker I mentioned earlier if you want to verify everything matches up properly. Better to catch any issues now rather than find out later that there was a name mismatch or something.

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Good suggestion. Prevention is definitely better than trying to fix things after a lien lapses.

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