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Katherine Ziminski

UCC Article 9 text interpretation - collateral description rejected twice

Having major issues with my UCC-1 filing getting rejected because the SOS says my collateral description doesn't comply with Article 9 requirements. I copied language straight from what I thought was standard Article 9 text but apparently I'm missing something critical. This is for a $180k equipment loan and the lender is getting impatient with the delays. The collateral includes manufacturing equipment, office furniture, and some specialty tools. First rejection said 'insufficient description under Article 9 standards' and second rejection after I revised it said 'does not reasonably identify collateral per UCC requirements.' I'm clearly not understanding something fundamental about how Article 9 text should be applied to collateral descriptions. Anyone dealt with similar rejections where the Article 9 language itself seems to be the problem?

Noah Irving

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Article 9 can be tricky with collateral descriptions - the key is being specific enough to reasonably identify the collateral without being overly broad. What exact language did you use in your description? Sometimes copying generic Article 9 text doesn't work because each filing needs to be tailored to the actual collateral.

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I used something like 'all equipment, furniture, fixtures and personal property' thinking that was standard Article 9 language but maybe that's too broad?

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Noah Irving

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Yeah that's definitely too broad. You need to be more specific - like 'manufacturing equipment located at [address], office furniture and fixtures, and specialty tools used in production.' Article 9 requires reasonable identification.

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Vanessa Chang

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I've seen this exact issue before. The problem isn't understanding Article 9 text - it's that most people think you can just use generic language from the statute. Each state's SOS has slightly different interpretation standards even though they're all following Article 9. What state are you filing in?

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This is in Ohio. The rejection notices aren't very helpful - just cite back to Article 9 sections without explaining what specifically is wrong.

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Vanessa Chang

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Ohio can be particular about collateral descriptions. Try using more specific categories like 'machinery and equipment used in manufacturing operations' rather than just 'equipment.

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Madison King

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Had similar issues with Ohio filings. They seem to want really detailed descriptions compared to other states I've filed in.

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Julian Paolo

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your UCC-1 draft and it instantly checks if the collateral description meets Article 9 standards before you submit. Saved me from multiple rejections by catching description issues early. Just upload the PDF and it cross-checks everything against current filing requirements.

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Never heard of that tool - does it actually help with the Article 9 text interpretation part or just basic formatting?

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Julian Paolo

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It specifically flags collateral description issues that don't meet reasonableness standards. Really helped me understand how to apply Article 9 requirements to actual filings rather than just reading the statute text.

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Ella Knight

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Been using Certana.ai too after getting burned on a continuation filing. The document checker caught inconsistencies between my original UCC-1 and the continuation that would have caused problems later.

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Article 9 says collateral description is sufficient if it reasonably identifies what is described. The problem is 'reasonably identifies' is subjective and varies by filing office. Some want super specific descriptions, others accept broader language.

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This is so frustrating about UCC filings - the same Article 9 text gets interpreted differently everywhere. Makes it impossible to know what will actually work.

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Exactly why I always err on the side of being more specific rather than relying on broad Article 9 language. Better to over-describe than get rejected.

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Jade Santiago

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Try breaking down your collateral into specific categories with locations if possible. Instead of generic Article 9 text, use something like: 'CNC machinery and related equipment located at 123 Main St, office furniture and fixtures at same location, specialized manufacturing tools and dies.' Much more likely to pass muster.

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That makes sense - I was trying to use broad Article 9 language thinking it would cover everything but sounds like specificity is better.

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Caleb Stone

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Definitely go specific. I learned this the hard way on a $300k filing that got rejected three times before I figured out Ohio wants detailed descriptions.

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Jade Santiago

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Yeah Ohio is stricter than most states. The specific location details really help show you're identifying particular collateral rather than just using generic Article 9 boilerplate.

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Daniel Price

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ugh been there with Ohio UCC filings. Their system is so picky about collateral descriptions. Even when you think you're following Article 9 perfectly they find something wrong

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Olivia Evans

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Ohio SOS seems to have their own interpretation of what Article 9 requires. Really wish they'd publish clearer guidance instead of just rejecting filings.

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Daniel Price

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right?? like give us examples of what actually works instead of just saying 'doesn't meet Article 9 standards

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I've had good luck using model descriptions from continuing legal education materials rather than trying to extract language directly from Article 9 text. The CLE examples show how to apply the statute to real-world situations.

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That's a good idea - do you have any specific CLE resources you'd recommend for UCC collateral descriptions?

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The ABA secured transactions materials usually have good model language. Also check your state bar's CLE archives for UCC programs.

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Aiden Chen

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PLI also has excellent UCC materials with practical examples of collateral descriptions that actually get accepted by filing offices.

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Zoey Bianchi

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One thing that helped me was using Certana.ai to compare my collateral description against successful filings. The tool showed me how other filers handled similar equipment descriptions that passed Article 9 review. Much better than trying to interpret the statute text in isolation.

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Does that tool actually have a database of successful filings to compare against? That would be incredibly useful for understanding how Article 9 gets applied in practice.

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Zoey Bianchi

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It analyzes document consistency and flags potential issues based on filing standards. Really helpful for avoiding the trial-and-error approach with collateral descriptions.

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For Ohio specifically, I've found they want collateral descriptions that include: 1) specific type of property, 2) location if applicable, 3) some distinguishing characteristics. Generic Article 9 language like 'all personal property' never flies there.

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This is really helpful - sounds like I need to completely rewrite my description with Ohio's preferences in mind rather than just using standard Article 9 text.

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Grace Johnson

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Yeah Ohio definitely has its quirks. I always check the Ohio SOS website for any updated guidance before filing there.

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Good point about checking for updates. Ohio has tweaked their interpretation guidelines a few times in recent years even though Article 9 hasn't changed.

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Jayden Reed

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Just went through this same nightmare last month. Ended up having to call the Ohio SOS directly to understand why my Article 9 compliant description kept getting rejected. Turns out they want much more detail than the statute technically requires.

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Did they give you specific examples of what would work? I'm hesitant to call because I don't want to seem incompetent to the lender.

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Jayden Reed

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They were actually pretty helpful once I got the right person on the phone. Just explain you're trying to understand their specific interpretation of Article 9 requirements.

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Nora Brooks

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Good to know Ohio SOS will actually talk through issues. Some states just tell you to read the statute and figure it out yourself.

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Eli Wang

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Final thought - once you get your description sorted out, definitely use one of those document verification tools before resubmitting. Nothing worse than a third rejection when you're already behind schedule on the loan closing.

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Thanks everyone - going to revise with specific categories and locations, then double-check everything before resubmitting. Really appreciate all the Article 9 guidance.

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Good luck! Ohio filings can be tricky but once you understand their interpretation of Article 9 requirements it gets much easier.

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