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Lola Perez

UCC 11 search arizona - help interpreting search results for lien verification

Hey everyone, I'm dealing with a tricky situation where I need to verify some existing liens through a UCC 11 search arizona but I'm getting confused by the results. I'm working on a commercial equipment refinancing deal and the borrower claims there are no existing UCC filings against their machinery, but when I run the UCC 11 search arizona on the SOS website, I'm seeing some entries that might be related. The problem is the debtor names don't match exactly - the search shows 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but our loan docs have 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' (note the comma). Are these considered the same entity for UCC purposes? Also seeing some terminated filings from 2019 that I think should be cleared but want to make sure. The collateral descriptions mention 'all equipment' which could potentially cover what we're looking at. This is my first time doing a thorough lien search in Arizona and I don't want to miss anything that could affect our security position. Has anyone dealt with similar name variations in UCC 11 search arizona results? Should I be concerned about these older terminated filings?

Name variations are definitely something to watch for in Arizona UCC searches. The comma difference you mentioned (ABC Manufacturing LLC vs ABC Manufacturing, LLC) could be significant depending on how the original filing was done. Arizona follows the 'seriously misleading' test so if the names are substantially similar but have minor punctuation differences, the filing might still be effective against both versions. You should also check if there are any DBAs or trade names associated with the entity that might show up differently in search results.

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Riya Sharma

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This is exactly why I always do multiple search variations when running UCC 11 searches. I'll search with and without commas, periods, abbreviations expanded (LLC vs Limited Liability Company), etc. Better safe than sorry when it comes to lien priority.

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Santiago Diaz

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Wait so even terminated filings from 2019 could still matter? I thought once something was terminated it was completely cleared from affecting new loans.

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Terminated filings themselves don't create ongoing liens, but they can provide valuable information about the debtor's borrowing history and what collateral was previously encumbered. Sometimes lenders forget to file terminations or file them incorrectly, so it's worth investigating further if you see patterns.

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Millie Long

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I ran into this exact issue last month! The Arizona SOS search can be tricky because it's not always intuitive about name matching. For your 'all equipment' concern - that's definitely broad enough to potentially cover whatever machinery you're financing. You might want to get copies of the actual UCC-1 filings (not just the search results) to see the specific collateral descriptions and debtor information as filed.

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Lola Perez

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How do I get copies of the actual filings? The search results just show basic info but I need to see the full collateral description to know if there's overlap.

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Millie Long

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On the Arizona SOS UCC search page, there should be a link or button to 'View Image' or 'Get Copy' next to each filing. There's usually a small fee per document but it's worth it to see exactly what was filed. The collateral descriptions can be very different from what shows up in the search summary.

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KaiEsmeralda

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Just remember that even if you see terminated filings, double-check that the termination was filed correctly and references the right original filing number. I've seen cases where terminations were filed against the wrong UCC-1 number by mistake.

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Debra Bai

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for UCC document verification. You can upload your loan documents and any UCC filings you find, and it automatically cross-checks debtor names, filing numbers, and collateral descriptions to flag potential conflicts. It caught a name mismatch issue for me that I almost missed when doing manual comparisons. Really helps when you're trying to figure out if 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' and 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' could refer to the same entity across different documents.

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Lola Perez

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That sounds helpful - does it work with Arizona UCC search results? I'm drowning in trying to compare all these different document formats manually.

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Debra Bai

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Yes, you just upload PDFs of whatever you found in your UCC 11 search arizona results along with your loan docs and it does the comparison automatically. Much faster than trying to spot discrepancies by eye, especially with name variations and complex collateral descriptions.

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Be very careful with 'all equipment' collateral descriptions in your UCC 11 search arizona results. That language is typically broad enough to cover any equipment the debtor owns or acquires, including what you might be financing. Even if the filing is terminated, you want to make sure: 1) The termination was properly filed and references the correct original filing, 2) The termination was filed by the secured party of record, and 3) There aren't any continuation statements that might have extended the original filing period.

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Laura Lopez

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How can you tell if a termination was filed by the right party? Sometimes the names on terminations look different from the original secured party.

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Good question. The termination should either be filed by the exact same secured party name as shown on the original UCC-1, or there should be an assignment (UCC-3 amendment) on record showing the transfer of the security interest to the party filing the termination. If neither exists, the termination might not be effective.

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Santiago Diaz

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This is getting complicated. Are there professional services that can help interpret UCC search results? I don't want to mess up a major equipment deal because I misread something.

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Arizona can be particularly tricky because they've had some system changes over the years that affect how older filings display in searches. For filings from 2019, make sure you're looking at both the original filing date and any continuation statements. A UCC-1 filed in 2019 would normally lapse in 2024 unless a continuation was filed, but if you're seeing it in current search results, either it was continued or there might be some system lag in updating lapsed filings.

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Great point about system lag. I've seen cases where lapsed filings still show up in search results for months after they should have dropped off. Always check the math on the filing dates versus continuation deadlines.

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Lola Perez

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So even though I see these 2019 filings marked as 'terminated' in my UCC 11 search arizona results, I should still verify the timeline and make sure everything adds up properly?

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Exactly. 'Terminated' means someone filed a UCC-3 termination statement, but you want to verify that was done correctly and by the right party. 'Lapsed' would mean the 5-year period expired without a continuation. Both should clear the lien, but the path matters for determining if it was done properly.

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UGH the Arizona UCC search system drives me crazy!! Half the time the results don't load properly and when they do the formatting is all over the place. I've had to call the SOS office multiple times to clarify search results that didn't make sense. Sometimes you get better results doing multiple searches with different variations of the debtor name rather than relying on one comprehensive search.

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I feel your pain! The search interface isn't the most user-friendly. I usually end up doing like 5 different searches with different name combinations just to make sure I'm not missing anything.

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Have you tried searching during off-peak hours? I swear the system works better early morning or late evening when fewer people are hitting it.

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JaylinCharles

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Similar situation here! Had a borrower insist there were no liens but UCC 11 search arizona showed multiple terminated filings from previous equipment loans. Turned out one of the terminations was never properly filed so there was still an active lien that would have taken priority over our new filing. Always worth digging deeper even when things look clear on the surface.

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Lola Perez

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How did you figure out the termination wasn't properly filed? What should I be looking for?

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JaylinCharles

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The termination referenced a different UCC filing number than the original UCC-1, so it didn't actually terminate the right filing. Had to contact the previous lender to get them to file a corrected termination. Could have been a major problem if we hadn't caught it.

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For equipment financing deals, I always recommend getting title searches done by professionals if the dollar amounts are significant. DIY UCC 11 search arizona can work for smaller deals but when you're talking major equipment refinancing you want expert eyes on the search results. Too much at stake to miss something important.

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Lucas Schmidt

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What's the typical cost for professional UCC search services in Arizona? Trying to figure out if it's worth it for our deal size.

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Depends on the scope but usually a few hundred dollars for a comprehensive search and analysis. Way cheaper than dealing with a priority dispute later if you miss an existing lien.

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Freya Collins

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We use Certana.ai for document verification after we get search results. Upload all the UCC filings and loan docs and it flags any potential name mismatches or collateral conflicts automatically. Saves time on the analysis part.

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LongPeri

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One thing that helped me with similar name variation issues was checking the Arizona Corporation Commission records to see how the entity is officially registered. Sometimes businesses file UCCs using slightly different versions of their legal name than what's on file with the state. If ABC Manufacturing LLC is the official registered name but they sometimes use the comma version, that context can help determine if your search results are showing the same entity.

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Excellent suggestion! Cross-referencing with corporate records is a smart verification step that too many people skip.

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Lola Perez

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I didn't think to check corporation commission records. That's a great idea to verify the exact legal entity name.

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Oscar O'Neil

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Been doing equipment financing in Arizona for 15 years and the comma vs no comma issue comes up regularly. Generally speaking, minor punctuation differences in entity names don't make UCC filings ineffective, but it's always better to be conservative in your interpretation. When in doubt, assume the filings could apply to your debtor and investigate further. The cost of additional due diligence is always less than the cost of getting burned by an unexpected prior lien.

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Lola Perez

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That's reassuring to hear from someone with long experience. I'll definitely err on the side of caution and investigate these potential matches further.

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Debra Bai

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This is where automated document checking tools like Certana.ai really shine - they can flag these kinds of name variations that might be easy to miss or dismiss when doing manual review.

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Agreed on being conservative. I've seen too many deals go sideways because someone made assumptions about name differences or termination effectiveness.

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Quick practical tip for your UCC 11 search arizona - if you're seeing results that might be relevant, print or save PDFs of everything before you leave the search page. The Arizona system sometimes times out or loses search results if you navigate away and come back. Having your own copies makes it easier to review the details and share with colleagues or legal counsel if needed.

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Liv Park

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Yes! I learned this the hard way. Spent an hour getting search results, left to grab coffee, came back and had to start over because the session expired.

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Lola Perez

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Good tip! I'll make sure to download copies of all the filings I found before closing out of the search.

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