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Matthew Sanchez

UCC-11 Form Pennsylvania - Need Help with Information Request Procedures

I'm dealing with a complicated lien situation on some manufacturing equipment and need to submit a UCC-11 form Pennsylvania to get detailed information about existing filings. The equipment has multiple liens from different time periods and I'm trying to sort out which ones are still active versus which might have lapsed. My attorney mentioned that a UCC-11 information request would show me the complete filing history, but I've never done one of these before. Has anyone here used the UCC-11 form in PA recently? I'm particularly confused about what specific information I should request - do I ask for all filings against the debtor name, or can I narrow it down by collateral type? Also wondering about turnaround times since this is holding up a potential acquisition. Any guidance would be really appreciated.

Ella Thompson

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The UCC-11 is basically your research tool for getting the full picture of what's already filed. In PA you can search by debtor name or by filing number if you have it. For equipment liens I'd recommend searching by debtor name first to see everything, then you can dig into specific filings. The state portal usually turns these around in 24-48 hours for electronic requests.

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Thanks! So I can do this electronically through the PA portal? I was worried I'd have to mail in paper forms.

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Ella Thompson

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Yeah, PA has a decent online system. Just make sure you're searching the exact legal name as it appears on the business registration.

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JacksonHarris

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Be careful with debtor name variations - I've seen situations where companies had filings under slightly different name formats and the search missed them. If it's a corporation make sure you include all the corporate designators (Inc., Corp., LLC, etc.) exactly as they appear on the charter documents.

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Good point. The target company has gone through some name changes over the years so I should probably search several variations.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the company's charter documents and any existing UCC filings, and it automatically cross-checks for name inconsistencies that could cause you to miss filings in your UCC-11 search. Saved me from a huge mistake on a similar acquisition deal.

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That sounds really useful - I'll check that out. Name variations are definitely my biggest worry right now.

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Royal_GM_Mark

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UCC-11 requests in PA are pretty straightforward but make sure you understand what you're getting. The standard search will show you all active filings, but if you need historical information about terminated filings you have to specifically request that. For an acquisition I'd want both - active liens obviously, but also terminated ones to verify they were properly released.

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I hadn't thought about needing the terminated filings too. Why would those matter for the acquisition?

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Royal_GM_Mark

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Sometimes lenders don't properly terminate their UCC-1 filings when loans are paid off. You want to verify that any old liens showing as 'lapsed' weren't just forgotten terminations. Could cause title issues later.

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This is so true! I had a deal almost fall apart because an old equipment loan from 2019 was still showing active even though it was paid off. The lender just never filed the UCC-3 termination.

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Chris King

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The fees aren't too bad for UCC-11 requests in PA, but they add up if you're doing multiple searches. I think it's like $15 per debtor name search? Don't quote me on that but it's reasonable. Much cheaper than having title problems later.

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Rachel Clark

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I think you're close on the fees. The online system shows you the cost before you submit so you know what you're paying.

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Good to know it's not expensive. I was worried about running up big search fees.

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One thing to watch out for - if the equipment was moved between states, you might have filings in multiple jurisdictions. PA will only show you what's filed in PA. If the debtor had operations in other states you might need to search there too.

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The equipment has been in PA the whole time, but the company did have a branch office in Ohio for a few years. Should I search Ohio too?

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Probably worth it just to be safe, especially if they had any financing during the Ohio period. Better to over-search than miss something.

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Mia Alvarez

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I've used Certana.ai for multi-state searches like this. You can upload your PA UCC-11 results and it helps identify potential gaps or name variations you should search in other states. Really streamlined my due diligence process.

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Carter Holmes

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Just make sure you keep good records of your UCC-11 searches for your due diligence file. Include the search dates, criteria used, and results. Your attorney will want this documented properly for the acquisition.

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Good reminder about documentation. I'm trying to be really thorough since this is my first acquisition deal.

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Carter Holmes

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First deals are always nerve-wracking! The key is being systematic about your searches and keeping everything organized.

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Sophia Long

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If you find active UCC-1 filings on the equipment, you'll need to contact those lenders about release or subordination for your acquisition. The UCC-11 just gives you the information - it doesn't solve lien priority issues.

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Right, this is just the research phase. Once I know what liens exist I can start dealing with them individually.

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Sophia Long

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Exactly. The UCC-11 is like your roadmap - shows you what you're dealing with but doesn't fix anything.

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Sometimes the hardest part is tracking down lenders from old filings to get releases. I've had filings where the original lender was bought by three different banks!

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PA's system is pretty user-friendly for UCC-11 requests. Just double-check your search criteria before submitting because you pay whether you find anything or not. Better to think through all the name variations first.

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That's a good point about paying regardless of results. I'll make a list of all possible name variations before I start searching.

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I always do a quick business entity search first to see how the company name is officially registered, then use that exact format for my UCC-11 search.

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Lucas Bey

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The manufacturing equipment angle is important - make sure you understand whether any of the liens are fixture filings. Those have different rules and might affect real estate too, not just the equipment.

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I hadn't thought about fixture filings! How would I know if a UCC-1 is a fixture filing from the UCC-11 results?

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Lucas Bey

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It should show up in the filing details. Fixture filings have to include real estate descriptions and are usually filed in both the UCC records and real estate records.

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This is another area where document verification tools like Certana.ai are helpful - they can identify fixture filing indicators that are easy to miss when you're reviewing lots of UCC documents manually.

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Caleb Stark

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Don't forget to check the effective dates and continuation status of any active filings you find. A UCC-1 that's more than 5 years old without a continuation filed might be lapsed even if it's still showing in the system.

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Good catch! So even if the UCC-11 shows a filing, I need to check if it's actually still effective?

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Caleb Stark

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Right - the UCC-11 might show filings that have technically lapsed due to no continuation being filed. You have to do the math on the dates.

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Jade O'Malley

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PA's system usually indicates lapsed filings but it's worth double-checking the dates yourself. I've seen errors in the automated status updates.

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Darcy Moore

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone new to UCC searches, I'm realizing there are a lot more nuances than I expected. Based on everyone's advice, it sounds like my action plan should be: 1) Get the exact legal entity names from charter documents, 2) Search PA electronically for all name variations, 3) Consider searching Ohio since they had operations there, 4) Request both active and terminated filings, 5) Carefully review dates for lapsed filings, and 6) Watch for fixture filing indicators. The tool recommendations for document verification are interesting too - might be worth exploring given the complexity of this deal. Thank you all for sharing your experiences!

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