Need help with Nevada UCC search - debtor name variations showing conflicting results
I'm pulling my hair out trying to run a comprehensive Nevada UCC search for a commercial loan we're closing next week. The debtor operates under several business variations and I'm getting completely different results depending on how I search the name. When I search "Mountain View Equipment LLC" I get 3 active filings, but searching "Mountainview Equipment LLC" (no space) shows 2 different filings, and "Mountain View Equipment, LLC" (with comma) pulls up nothing at all. This is for a $2.8M equipment financing deal and I cannot afford to miss any existing liens. The SOS Nevada portal seems really finicky about exact name matching and I'm worried I'm missing critical filings that could torpedo this deal. Has anyone else dealt with Nevada's UCC search being this sensitive to minor name variations? I need to be 100% certain I've found every possible filing before we fund.
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Derek Olson
Nevada's UCC search is notorious for this exact problem. You absolutely need to run multiple name variations because their system doesn't use fuzzy matching like some other states. Try searching without LLC designation entirely, with periods after abbreviations, and with different spacing. Also search the individual owner names if it's a smaller operation - sometimes personal guarantees get filed under individual names instead of the business.
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Danielle Mays
•This is so frustrating! I had the same issue last month with a Colorado filing that showed up in Nevada records. Spent hours thinking I was missing something only to realize it was a multi-state collateral situation.
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Roger Romero
•The individual name search tip is gold. I've found so many liens filed under personal names that would have been missed with just business entity searches.
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Anna Kerber
I've been doing UCC searches for 15 years and Nevada is definitely one of the more challenging states for name matching. Here's what I always do: search the exact name from the charter documents, search without any punctuation, search with common abbreviations (Co, Corp, Inc, LLC), and search backwards (Equipment Mountain View LLC). Their database is extremely literal.
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Niko Ramsey
•The backwards search trick actually works? That seems so random but I'm willing to try anything at this point.
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Seraphina Delan
•Yes! I found a filing last year that way. Sometimes the filing attorney enters names in weird orders and it only shows up with reverse searches.
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Anna Kerber
•Exactly. I've found liens filed as "LLC Mountain View Equipment" when the legal name was "Mountain View Equipment LLC". Always worth checking.
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Jabari-Jo
Had this exact nightmare scenario happen to me. Missed a $800K lien because of a spacing difference in the debtor name. Now I use Certana.ai's UCC verification tool - you can upload your charter documents and it automatically cross-checks against all the common name variations in the UCC database. Would have saved me weeks of stress and potential liability issues.
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Rachel Tao
•Interesting - how does that work exactly? Do you upload the Nevada search results or does it search directly?
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Jabari-Jo
•You upload the business charter/formation docs and it runs comprehensive searches using all possible name variations automatically. Way more thorough than manual searching and catches stuff you'd never think to look for.
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Kristin Frank
•That sounds too good to be true but honestly after dealing with this manual search nightmare I'm open to trying anything that works.
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Micah Trail
Another thing to watch for in Nevada - sometimes the SOS system has temporary glitches where recent filings don't show up immediately. I always run searches 2-3 times over a couple days to make sure I'm not missing anything that's still processing.
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Nia Watson
•How recent is recent? Like same day filings or are we talking weeks?
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Micah Trail
•Usually same day or next business day. But I've seen filings take up to 72 hours to show up in search results, especially around month-end when they're processing a lot of continuations.
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Alberto Souchard
Don't forget to check the federal tax lien database too. Not technically UCC but can still affect your collateral priority. Nevada keeps those separate from UCC filings which is annoying.
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Katherine Shultz
•Good point. I always forget about tax liens until the title company brings them up at closing.
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Marcus Marsh
•Tax liens can be senior to your UCC filing depending on when they were filed. Definitely worth checking separately.
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Hailey O'Leary
This is why I hate Nevada filings. Their portal is so clunky compared to Delaware or even California. Takes forever to load and the search functionality is from 2005.
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Cedric Chung
•At least it's not as bad as Pennsylvania where half the time the system is down for 'maintenance'.
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Talia Klein
•LOL Pennsylvania is the worst. I swear they shut down the system every time someone needs to run a search.
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Hailey O'Leary
•True, but Nevada's search results are so inconsistent it's almost worse than being down completely.
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Maxwell St. Laurent
For $2.8M I'd honestly pay for a professional UCC search service. The cost is nothing compared to missing a senior lien and having your collateral position compromised.
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Rachel Tao
•We usually do use a service but this deal is moving fast and we need results today. Professional searches take 24-48 hours minimum.
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PaulineW
•Some of the online services like CT Corporation can turn around Nevada searches same day if you pay the rush fee.
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Annabel Kimball
•Rush fees are usually 2-3x normal cost but worth it for deals this size. Better safe than sorry.
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Chris Elmeda
I learned this lesson the hard way - always print or save PDF copies of your search results with timestamps. Nevada's system sometimes shows different results when you run the same search later and you'll want proof of what you found on the date you searched.
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Jean Claude
•This is so important! I had a situation where a lien appeared between my search and closing and the borrower claimed it was there all along.
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Charity Cohan
•Always document everything. The SOS systems are not reliable enough to trust without keeping your own records.
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Josef Tearle
Try searching with the federal EIN number if you have it. Sometimes Nevada filings include the tax ID and you can catch filings that way even if the name search misses them.
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Shelby Bauman
•Wait, Nevada allows EIN searches? I thought only a few states supported that.
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Josef Tearle
•Not directly, but the EIN sometimes shows up in the debtor additional info field and you can search that way. Hit or miss but worth trying.
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Quinn Herbert
Update: I ended up using that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier and it found 2 additional filings I completely missed with manual searches. One was filed under "Mt View Equipment LLC" (abbreviated) and another under the owner's personal name as additional debtor. Both would have been senior to our filing. Tool paid for itself immediately.
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Salim Nasir
•Wow, that's exactly the kind of thing that keeps me up at night. Glad you caught those before funding.
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Hazel Garcia
•Can you share what the cost was? Always looking for better search tools.
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Quinn Herbert
•Much less than I expected and definitely worth it for the comprehensive coverage. The automated cross-checking caught variations I would never have thought to search manually.
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Rachel Tao
•This is exactly what I needed to hear. Going to try the Certana verification - can't risk missing any liens on a deal this size.
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