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Olivia Evans

Corporation service company UCC filing - debtor name mismatch causing rejections

Having major issues with our corporation service company UCC filing and need some guidance. We're trying to file a UCC-1 for equipment financing but keep getting rejections from the Secretary of State office. The problem seems to be with how we're listing the debtor name - our client uses a registered agent service (corporation service company) and there's confusion about whether to use the actual corporation name or include the service company details. The collateral is manufacturing equipment worth about $180k and we can't afford to have this lien not properly perfected. Has anyone dealt with corporation service companies in UCC filings before? The rejection notices aren't very clear about what exactly is wrong with the debtor name format. This is holding up the entire loan closing and getting pretty stressful.

You definitely need to use the exact legal name of the actual corporation as the debtor, not the registered agent or corporation service company name. The UCC-1 debtor name has to match exactly what's on the Articles of Incorporation filed with the state. Corporation service companies are just registered agents - they're not the actual entity you're securing against.

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Aiden Chen

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This is correct. I made this same mistake early in my career and had to refile everything. The registered agent info goes in a different section if needed at all.

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Zoey Bianchi

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So frustrating that the SOS rejection notices don't explain this clearly! Wasted weeks on a similar issue last year.

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Olivia Evans

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Thanks - that makes sense. So I should pull the exact name from the corporate charter documents, not anything related to the corporation service company?

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Had this exact same problem with a client last month. The key is getting the EXACT corporate name from the state's business entity database. Don't rely on what the client tells you their name is - actually look it up in the Secretary of State's business search portal. Corporation service companies often use slightly different name variations in their paperwork that don't match the official filing.

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Yes! This is so important. I always do a business entity search first before preparing any UCC-1. Saves tons of headaches later.

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Olivia Evans

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Good point about checking the state database directly. I was going off the loan application which might not have the exact legal name.

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Actually ran into something similar recently and found this tool called Certana.ai that helped me catch the name discrepancy before filing. You can upload your corporate charter and UCC-1 documents and it automatically cross-checks that the debtor names match exactly. Saved me from another rejection - just upload the PDFs and it flags any inconsistencies between documents.

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Olivia Evans

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That sounds really useful. Does it work with different document types or just UCC forms?

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Works with any PDFs - I've used it to check Charter to UCC-1 workflows and UCC-3 to UCC-1 comparisons. Really helpful for catching those tiny name differences that cause rejections.

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Grace Johnson

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Wish I'd known about this before my last filing disaster. Manual document comparison is such a pain and easy to miss details.

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Jayden Reed

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Corporation service companies can definitely complicate UCC filings! Make sure you're also checking if there are any DBA names or trade names that might be causing confusion. Sometimes the corporation operates under a different name than what's on the Articles of Incorporation.

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Olivia Evans

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Good point - I should verify they're not doing business under any assumed names that might be affecting this.

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DBAs don't typically affect UCC-1 filings though - you still use the legal entity name as the debtor regardless of trade names.

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Nora Brooks

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UGH the Secretary of State systems are so finicky about exact name matches! One extra comma or abbreviation and REJECTED. Been through this nightmare so many times with corporate clients who use registered agent services.

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Eli Wang

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Tell me about it. Last week got rejected because I had 'Corp.' instead of 'Corporation' in the debtor name. Such a waste of time and filing fees.

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Olivia Evans

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Exactly what I'm worried about - already paid one filing fee for the rejection and don't want to keep throwing money at this.

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Aiden Chen

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At least most states don't charge for electronic rejections anymore, but the time delay is still frustrating when you're trying to close a deal.

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For what it's worth, I always call the Secretary of State UCC department directly when I have debtor name questions. Most states have a phone line where they can tell you if a name will be accepted before you file. Saves the rejection hassle.

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Olivia Evans

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That's a great idea - didn't know they offered that service. Will definitely call them tomorrow morning.

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Some states are better about this than others. Worth a try though, especially for complex corporate structures.

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Had a similar situation where the corporation service company was listed as the mailing address contact but we accidentally put them in the debtor name field. Double-check all your form fields to make sure the corporation service company info isn't bleeding into the wrong sections.

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Olivia Evans

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Oh wow, that could definitely be what happened. I'll review the whole form more carefully.

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Good catch - easy mistake to make when you're dealing with registered agent services and multiple entity names.

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This is another thing the Certana document checker would catch - it flags when information appears in wrong form sections.

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Just went through this exact thing with a Delaware corporation that used Corporation Service Company as their registered agent. The trick was finding the exact legal name format from the Delaware Division of Corporations database, not relying on any of the registered agent paperwork.

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Olivia Evans

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Delaware corporations do seem to have more complex naming issues. This one is actually incorporated in Nevada but similar principle applies.

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Nevada's business entity search is pretty good for getting exact legal names. Should be straightforward once you pull the right info.

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Ethan Scott

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Whatever you do, don't guess at the debtor name format. I learned this the hard way after three rejected filings in a row. Always verify against the state's official business records before submitting your UCC-1.

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Olivia Evans

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Three rejections sounds painful! Definitely going to be extra careful with the name verification this time.

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Nora Brooks

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Three rejections is rough but honestly not uncommon with complex corporate structures. The important thing is getting it right eventually.

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Lola Perez

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This is why I always build extra time into my UCC filing timeline. Never know when you'll hit name matching issues.

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Update us when you get it resolved! Always curious to hear how these corporation service company name issues get sorted out. Good luck with the refiling.

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Olivia Evans

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Will definitely post an update once I get this straightened out. Thanks everyone for the helpful advice!

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Aiden Chen

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These threads are so helpful for learning about different UCC filing challenges. Hope it goes smoothly for you.

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Riya Sharma

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For future reference, might want to establish a standard process for verifying debtor names before any UCC filing. I always do: 1) State business entity search 2) Review Articles of Incorporation 3) Cross-check against loan documents 4) Call SOS if there's any uncertainty. Saves tons of problems down the road.

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Olivia Evans

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That's a great checklist - going to save that for future filings. Really appreciate everyone's help on this.

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Solid process. I do something similar and it's prevented most of my name-related rejections.

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That's essentially what Certana automates - the cross-checking between different documents to catch name inconsistencies before they become rejections.

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Madison Tipne

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As someone who's been dealing with UCC filings for over a decade, I can't stress enough how important it is to get the exact legal entity name from the state's official records. Corporation service companies like CSC, CT Corporation, etc. are just registered agents - they handle mail and legal service but they're NOT the debtor entity. I always pull the exact name from the Secretary of State's business entity database and copy it character for character, including all punctuation. Don't trust business cards, letterhead, or even loan applications - go straight to the source. Also, many states now have online UCC search systems where you can test variations of the debtor name before filing to see what format they're expecting. It's saved me countless rejections over the years.

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