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Update us when you get this resolved! I'm dealing with a similar situation with a different lender and curious how it turns out.

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Oliver Weber

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Will do. Planning to try the Certana tool first to see if there's already a termination filed under a different name variation.

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Ethan Brown

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Good strategy. Always worth checking for filing discrepancies before assuming the worst.

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Mateo Sanchez

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I've been through this exact scenario multiple times in my finance career. Two months is definitely excessive for a straightforward loan payoff, especially at that dollar amount. Here's my suggested action plan: 1) First, use that Certana.ai tool everyone's mentioning to verify there isn't already a termination filed under a variant of your company name, 2) If nothing shows up, send a formal demand letter citing Texas Business and Commerce Code Section 9.513 which requires termination within 20 days of payoff, 3) Include a copy of your payoff receipt and mention potential regulatory complaints. I've seen this approach work consistently. The key is being professional but firm about the legal requirements. Most lenders will prioritize your file once they realize you understand the statutory framework.

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Kaitlyn Otto

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! Having a specific action plan with the actual statute reference makes me feel much more confident about pushing back. I'll definitely start with the Certana tool - seems like several people here have had success with it catching filing discrepancies. The professional but firm approach sounds perfect for this situation.

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For what it's worth, I think you're overthinking this. Mobile construction equipment is pretty straightforward UCC-1 territory unless there are titles involved. File the UCC-1 with a good collateral description and you should be fine. The non UCC filings are for different types of property altogether.

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Jamal Carter

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Better to ask questions and be sure than to file the wrong thing and find out later. I've seen too many deals where people had to scramble to fix filing mistakes.

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Mei Liu

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Agreed - and with Certana.ai's verification tool you can double-check your work before filing. Just upload your loan agreement and UCC-1 draft and it flags any potential issues with collateral descriptions or filing type.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is timing - UCC filings are generally effective immediately upon filing, but some non-UCC filings have different effective dates or require additional steps. For your construction equipment deal, once you file the UCC-1 it should show up in searches within a day or two (depending on your Secretary of State's processing time). That might help answer your client's question about when the lien will be visible. Also, make sure you're prepared for continuation filings down the road - UCC-1s need to be continued every 5 years or they lapse.

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Isabel Vega

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This is really helpful information about timing! I hadn't thought about the continuation filing requirements. So I need to make sure my client understands they'll need to renew this every 5 years to keep the lien in place? And good point about letting them know it should show up in searches within a couple days - they've been asking about that timeline.

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Jean Claude

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Yes, exactly! The 5-year continuation is crucial - I've seen deals where the lender forgot to continue and lost their perfected security interest. Make sure you set up a calendar reminder or use a service that tracks continuation dates. Also worth noting that if the loan term is longer than 5 years, you'll need multiple continuations. Some lenders build the continuation fees into the loan structure upfront.

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Ella Cofer

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Update - we refiled using 'all inventory, including raw materials, work-in-process, finished goods, and goods held for sale' and it was accepted! Thanks everyone for the help. The UCC definition was never the issue, just needed more descriptive language for the filing office. Credit line approved and we're back in business.

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Great outcome. Shows how important it is to understand both the legal requirements and the practical filing office preferences.

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Felix Grigori

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Congrats! For future filings, that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier might help catch these description issues before submission.

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Aisha Patel

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Great to see this resolved! This is exactly why I always recommend being more descriptive with collateral descriptions from the start. The UCC definition of inventory under 9-102 is clear - it includes goods held for sale or lease, raw materials, work in process, and materials consumed in business. Your wholesale distribution business obviously falls under this definition. But filing offices often want that extra clarity in the language. I typically use something like "all inventory of every kind and description, now owned or hereafter acquired, including without limitation raw materials, work-in-process, finished goods, and goods held for sale or lease" - it's comprehensive and covers all the bases while hitting the magic phrases that make filing officers happy.

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Thanks for this detailed breakdown! As someone who's dealt with a few UCC filings but nothing too complex, I really appreciate seeing the comprehensive language spelled out like that. The "now owned or hereafter acquired" part especially makes sense for ongoing business operations - I hadn't thought about how inventory changes constantly in a wholesale operation. It's frustrating that we need these "magic phrases" to satisfy filing offices when the statute itself is pretty clear, but I guess that's just the reality of dealing with bureaucracy. Definitely saving this language for future reference!

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Yuki Nakamura

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This thread has been incredibly educational! I'm relatively new to secured transactions work and seeing everyone's practical experience with UCC inventory definitions versus filing office preferences really drives home how important it is to understand both the law and the administrative quirks. The comprehensive language Aisha provided seems like it would eliminate most of the guesswork. I'm curious though - do you find that being overly detailed in collateral descriptions ever creates problems down the line, like making amendments more complicated or causing issues with priority disputes? Or is it generally safe to err on the side of being more inclusive rather than minimalist?

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Sofia Morales

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Update us when you get it filed! Always helpful to know what actually worked for future reference.

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Nia Jackson

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Will definitely report back once it's successfully filed. Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Dmitry Popov

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Yes please update! This thread will be helpful for others with similar questions.

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Ravi Gupta

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I've dealt with this exact confusion before! The "addendum form" terminology is misleading - there's typically no separate form. What worked for me was using the standard UCC-3 amendment form, checking the box for "add collateral" in section 5, and then attaching continuation sheets labeled "Addendum A" or "Exhibit A" with the detailed equipment descriptions. Most states accept this format without issue. Just make sure to reference your original UCC-1 filing number on every page and keep your equipment descriptions specific enough to be enforceable but broad enough to cover variations in model numbers or replacements. Given your tight timeline, I'd recommend preparing the filing this way and submitting it rather than continuing to chase down a form that likely doesn't exist.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and was also getting confused by the "addendum" terminology. Your approach of using "Addendum A" or "Exhibit A" for the continuation sheets makes a lot of sense. Quick question - when you say "specific enough to be enforceable but broad enough to cover variations," do you have any examples of good language for manufacturing equipment descriptions? I want to make sure I strike the right balance.

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Amara Okonkwo

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UPDATE: Ran UCC searches on both names. Only the original "Industrial Steel Processing Corp" filing shows up, no amendments. Going to file the UCC-3 termination using the exact original debtor name and filing number. Thanks for the guidance everyone - this could have been a costly mistake if I'd tried to use the current LLC name.

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Good resolution. File it exactly as the original UCC-1 shows and you should be fine.

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Dylan Hughes

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Another successful UCC termination story. These threads always help clarify the process.

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QuantumQuasar

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Great to see this resolved! For future ISPC deals or similar entity name change situations, I'd recommend documenting the UCC search results in your file. Shows due diligence was done and protects against any questions later. With $2.8M equipment deals, that paper trail is worth its weight in gold if title issues ever come up down the road.

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QuantumQuest

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Absolutely agree on documenting everything! As someone new to UCC work, I'm learning that the paper trail is just as important as getting the filing right. This whole thread has been incredibly educational - I had no idea entity name changes could create such complications with terminations. The advice about using the original debtor name exactly as filed makes so much sense now.

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