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Nia Jackson

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One thing I learned the hard way - always search both the company's current legal name AND any former names if they've changed. Older filings might be under the old name and won't show up in searches of the current name.

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Nia Jackson

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Check their articles of incorporation and any amendments filed with the state. Name changes should be documented there.

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Emma Wilson

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Also check Dun & Bradstreet or other business credit reports - they often list former names and DBAs.

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Luca Ricci

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One more tip that hasn't been mentioned - if the target company has any subsidiaries or related entities, make sure you're searching for UCC filings against those as well. Sometimes parent companies guarantee subsidiary debt or subsidiaries cross-guarantee each other's obligations. I've seen deals where the main entity looked clean but a subsidiary had significant liens that ultimately affected the whole acquisition. Get a complete corporate family tree and search each entity individually.

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This is such a crucial point that gets overlooked! I'm dealing with a target that has like 8 subsidiaries across different states. Should I be searching for filings under each subsidiary's name in every state where any of them operate, or just focus on the states where each specific subsidiary is active?

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Just want to add that this isn't unique to D&B - I've seen similar issues with other commercial databases too. The fundamental problem is that they're trying to aggregate data from 50+ different state systems that all work differently. Some states have great APIs, others are still basically manual entry. Until there's better standardization across state filing systems, these discrepancies are going to keep happening.

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Paolo Conti

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That's a really good point about the systemic issues. It's not necessarily that D&B is doing anything wrong, it's just the nature of trying to aggregate inconsistent data sources.

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Amina Diallo

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Still doesn't excuse the fact that they're selling this data to lenders who are making million-dollar decisions based on it. There should be better quality control and clearer disclaimers about data limitations.

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Yara Abboud

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This thread perfectly captures why I've moved away from relying on D&B for UCC searches altogether. We now use a two-tier approach: start with our state databases directly for primary jurisdictions, then use D&B only as a backup to catch anything we might have missed in secondary states. The time investment upfront is worth it to avoid the headaches later. One tip I'd add - if you're seeing consistent discrepancies with a particular borrower, check if they've had any recent name changes or corporate restructuring. D&B sometimes struggles to properly link filings across entity name variations, especially when there are mergers or acquisitions involved.

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Amina Toure

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Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here. Makes me feel less stupid for falling for this scam. Going forward I'm only using services that provide direct links to the actual state filing records so I can verify everything myself.

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Don't feel stupid - these scams are designed to look legitimate. The important thing is catching it before it causes bigger problems.

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Mei Lin

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That's a smart approach. Any reputable UCC search service should be able to provide direct references to the actual state filings they're reporting on.

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This is such an important warning for everyone in our community. I've been doing UCC searches for years and I'm seeing more of these scam operations pop up every month. One thing I always tell people is to look for red flags like generic email addresses (gmail, yahoo, etc.) instead of professional domains, and websites that don't clearly state their physical business address. Also, legitimate UCC search providers will usually offer to walk you through their methodology and explain where they source their data from. If a company gets evasive about their process or won't provide references from other clients, that's a huge warning sign. Thanks for sharing your experience - it'll definitely help others avoid the same trap.

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Amina Sy

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This is exactly the kind of guidance newcomers like me need! I'm just starting to handle UCC searches for my small practice and honestly didn't know what warning signs to look for. The generic email address tip is particularly helpful - I would have never thought to check that. Is there a resource or database where you can verify if a UCC search company is legitimate before using their services? I'd rather spend extra time vetting providers upfront than deal with the nightmare of fake documents later.

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Nina Chan

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Whatever you do, don't let this slide. Three weeks past the statutory deadline is unacceptable and if you don't push back now, they'll know they can ignore future requests too. Document everything and consider it a cost of doing business to have an attorney send the demand letter.

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You're right. I've been too nice about this. Time to escalate and get serious about enforcement.

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Ruby Knight

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Exactly. These compliance requirements exist for a reason and lenders need to follow them just like everyone else.

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As someone new to UCC issues, this thread has been really educational. It sounds like Jackson has solid documentation with the certified mail receipt and is clearly past the statutory deadline. From what I'm reading, it seems like the next steps should be: 1) Double-check that the entity names match between the original UCC-1 and the 9-210 request (especially given the LLC to Corp change), 2) Verify there haven't been any UCC-3 assignments that would change who the secured party is, and 3) Send a formal demand letter to their legal/compliance department citing the statutory violation. The banking regulator complaint option also sounds promising as a way to get their attention quickly. Jackson, have you been able to find contact information for their compliance department yet?

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Zara Khan

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Great summary Anastasia! You've captured all the key action items perfectly. I'm also new to UCC matters but this discussion has been incredibly helpful. Jackson, one thing that stood out to me is that multiple people mentioned the same document verification service (Certana.ai) - might be worth checking your 9-210 request format before sending that demand letter, just to make sure they can't claim it was defective. And yes, definitely curious to hear if you've been able to track down their compliance department contact info!

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Emily Parker

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This is such a timely discussion for me as a newer member here. I'm working on my first solar equipment UCC termination and was second-guessing myself on the name matching requirements. Reading through everyone's experiences really drives home how critical exact character matching is - I had no idea that even spacing differences could cause rejections. The recommendation to pull the original UCC-1 directly from the Secretary of State database rather than relying on loan documents is particularly valuable advice I wouldn't have thought of. I'm definitely going to look into those document verification tools mentioned as well, especially since we're expecting more solar deals in our pipeline. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right to be cautious with your first solar UCC termination - these can be tricky even for experienced professionals. The character-by-character matching requirement really can't be overstated. I've seen terminations delayed for weeks over seemingly minor discrepancies. Since you mentioned you're new to this, one additional tip: when you pull that original UCC-1 from the Secretary of State database, take a screenshot or save a PDF copy for your records. That way you have the exact formatting reference for any future amendments or if you need to file additional terminations for similar entities. Good luck with your termination!

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Madison King

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As someone who's been handling UCC filings for over a decade, I can't emphasize enough how crucial exact name matching is for terminations. I've seen too many deals delayed because of seemingly insignificant differences like periods, commas, or spacing. For solar equipment deals specifically, I always recommend creating a checklist: 1) Pull the original UCC-1 from the state database, 2) Copy the debtor name character-for-character, 3) Double-check entity designations (LLC vs L.L.C.), and 4) Verify any Roman numerals match exactly. The solar industry's complex entity structures make this even more critical - I've dealt with entities that have nearly identical names but are completely different legal entities. Better to spend an extra 10 minutes verifying than dealing with rejected filings and angry loan officers!

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