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Mary Bates

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As someone who's dealt with interstate moves for debtors, I'd recommend checking one more thing before filing your amendment - verify that the debtor hasn't changed their registered agent or other corporate details when they moved operations to Ohio. Sometimes companies make multiple changes at once and you want to catch everything in one amendment rather than having to file corrections later. Also, since you mentioned the continuation is due in 8 months, filing the amendment now gives you plenty of time to resolve any issues before the continuation deadline approaches.

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That's really smart advice about checking the registered agent info too. I hadn't thought about other corporate changes that might have happened during their move. Better to catch everything at once than deal with multiple filings later.

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Excellent point about the registered agent check. I've seen cases where companies update their registered agent to a local service in the new state when they relocate operations, even if they stay incorporated in the original state. Running a quick corporate search before filing the amendment could save you from having to do another correction later. The 8-month buffer is definitely working in your favor here - gives you time to be thorough.

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Just want to add another perspective here - I've handled dozens of these cross-state address changes and the key thing everyone's touching on is right: debtor name consistency is what really matters for perfection. However, I'd strongly recommend doing the UCC-3 amendment now rather than waiting, not just for the practical reasons others mentioned, but because some title companies and other third parties get nervous when they see outdated addresses on UCC searches. They sometimes flag it as a potential issue even when legally it's fine. Filing the amendment now for about $25-50 (depending on your state) eliminates any questions and makes your security interest look clean and current. Plus, as others noted, you've got 8 months before the continuation is due, so plenty of time to handle this properly without rushing.

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Sayid Hassan

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As someone new to commercial lending, this thread has been incredibly educational! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need to file UCCs for multiple equipment loans across different states. One question I have - when using filing services, do they typically provide confirmation of successful filing immediately, or is there a delay? Also, for equipment that might be moved between states during the loan term (like construction equipment), do you need to file in multiple states upfront or can you amend later when the equipment relocates? The multi-state aspect seems like it could get complicated quickly, especially with different state requirements and fees.

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Great questions! Most professional filing services provide same-day electronic confirmation when filings are accepted by the state systems, usually within a few hours. For the multi-state equipment issue, you typically file where the equipment is located at the time of the transaction. If equipment moves permanently to another state, you generally have 4 months to file a new UCC in the destination state to maintain perfection (this varies by state though). For mobile equipment like construction machinery, some lenders file in multiple states upfront if they know the equipment will be moving around regularly. It's definitely more complex than single-state deals, but filing services that specialize in this can help navigate the different state requirements and timing rules.

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Ravi Sharma

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Adding to Harper's excellent response - I'd strongly recommend working with a filing service that has experience with mobile equipment. They can set up a monitoring system to track when equipment crosses state lines and automatically handle the continuation filings. For construction equipment specifically, some states have special provisions for "mobile goods" that can simplify the process. Also worth noting that the 4-month rule Harper mentioned can vary - some states give you only 60 days, so it's critical to know the specific requirements for each jurisdiction where your equipment might operate. The upfront cost of filing in multiple states is usually worth it for peace of mind, especially on a $340K deal where you can't afford gaps in perfection.

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Zainab Yusuf

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This thread has covered the authorization aspects really well, but I'd add one practical tip from my experience with equipment financing - always request a certified copy of the UCC filing from the secretary of state once it's processed. Many lenders just rely on the filing service's confirmation, but having the official state-certified copy in your loan file is crucial for enforcement later. Also, for SBA deals specifically, make sure your UCC filing is coordinated with any required personal guaranty UCCs - sometimes the personal and business filings need to be done simultaneously to avoid gaps in coverage. The SBA has specific requirements about perfection timing that can affect the guarantee, so don't just assume your business UCC filing alone is sufficient.

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Excellent point about getting certified copies! I learned this the hard way when we had to enforce a security interest and the court wanted official documentation, not just our filing service confirmation. The certified copy also helps if there are ever questions about the exact filing date or content. On the SBA coordination aspect - that's something I hadn't considered but makes total sense. Do you typically file the personal guaranty UCCs at the same time as the business equipment UCC, or is there a specific sequence that works best? I'm assuming the timing could affect lien priority if there are other creditors involved.

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Ava Thompson

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Thanks everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about tackling the Louisiana UCC forms now. Going to pull the LLC articles first, then use that document checker tool to make sure everything matches up before I submit.

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Good luck with the filing! Louisiana SOS is pretty efficient once you get the paperwork right.

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Zainab Ali

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Let us know how it goes! Always good to hear success stories with these filings.

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Leo McDonald

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@Yuki, one thing I'd add - make sure to check if your financing agreement specifies any particular collateral description language. Some lenders have standard clauses they require in UCC filings to match their security agreements. Also, Louisiana allows you to file amendments if you need to correct minor errors later, but it's obviously better to get it right the first time. The $85k value definitely makes this worth doing carefully!

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Ev Luca

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Document everything about your decision-making process. If this goes to court, you'll need to show the judge that you made reasonable business decisions based on available information. The standard isn't perfection, it's commercial reasonableness.

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Nalani Liu

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That's reassuring. We've been trying to do everything perfectly but maybe we're overthinking it. As long as our procedures are reasonable and well-documented, we should be okay.

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Ev Luca

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Exactly. Courts understand that secured parties need to be able to realize on collateral efficiently. Just make sure you can explain and defend your choices with facts and documentation.

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As a newcomer here, I'm curious about the practical timeline considerations when debtors are threatening litigation. How much advance notice do you typically give beyond the minimum UCC requirements when you anticipate pushback? I'm wondering if providing extra notice time (even though not legally required) might help demonstrate good faith and commercial reasonableness if this does end up in court.

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PixelPrincess

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Great question! I typically give 15-20 days notice instead of the minimum 10 days when I expect pushback. It shows the court you weren't rushing the process and gave the debtor reasonable time to explore alternatives. Plus it gives you more buffer time if they do try to get an injunction - harder for them to argue irreparable harm when you've given generous notice periods.

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Luis Johnson

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That's smart advice about extended notice periods. In my experience, when debtors are already claiming the collateral is worth significantly more than your appraisal (like the $115k gap mentioned here), giving extra notice time also provides opportunity for them to find their own buyer if they really believe in the higher value. If they don't produce a better offer during that extended period, it actually strengthens your position that the market doesn't support their claimed valuation.

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Ev Luca

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Just to add - some states have additional addendum forms or supplemental filings, but those build on the basic 6 forms. The core UCC article 9 framework is consistent across all states even if implementation details vary.

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Avery Davis

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Good point about addendum forms. Fixture filings often require additional real estate documentation.

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Collins Angel

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Consistency is key. Master the 6 main forms and you can handle UCC filings in any state with minor adjustments.

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Omar Fawaz

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This has been incredibly helpful! I was definitely overthinking the complexity. So to confirm my understanding: for our equipment financing expansion, we'll primarily need UCC-1 forms for initial perfection of security interests, UCC-3 forms for continuations every 5 years and any amendments (like when borrowers change names or we need to add collateral), and potentially UCC-4 assignments if we decide to sell any of these loans to other institutions. The UCC-5 information statements and UCC-6 partial releases sound like edge cases we might encounter but shouldn't be our primary focus. I'm relieved it's not as complicated as I initially thought - just need to master those core forms and understand our state-specific filing requirements. Thanks everyone for the clear explanations!

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StarSeeker

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You've got it exactly right! That's a perfect summary of what you'll need for equipment financing. One quick tip from someone who's been there - set up automated reminders for those UCC-3 continuations well before the 5-year mark. Missing those deadlines can be costly. Also, when you're doing the initial UCC-1 filings, be extra careful with debtor names - even small variations can cause problems later. The state filing offices are getting stricter about exact name matching.

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