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Just wanted to add that timing matters too. If your personal property security agreement was signed recently, make sure the LLC was actually formed before the security agreement date. I've seen rejections where the entity didn't exist yet when the security agreement was executed.

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Good catch. The LLC has been around for 3 years so that shouldn't be the issue, but I'll double-check the formation date against our security agreement.

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This is why due diligence on entity status is so important before finalizing loan docs.

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Update us when you figure it out! I'm dealing with a similar personal property security agreement filing issue and curious what ends up being the problem.

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Will do! Going to try the entity name search first, then maybe call the filing office if that doesn't work.

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Hope you get it sorted out. These name mismatch rejections are so common but usually have simple fixes once you know what to look for.

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Update us on how it goes! Always curious to hear about other people's filing experiences, especially on larger deals like this.

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Will do! Planning to file tomorrow morning once I get all the details sorted out. Thanks everyone for the input.

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Good luck! Delaware's system is usually pretty quick on the turnaround.

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One more thing - make sure you calendar the continuation deadline as soon as you file. Five years goes by faster than you think, especially on these big commercial deals.

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Great reminder - I'll set up calendar alerts as soon as I get the filing number back.

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And remember you can file the continuation up to 6 months before the 5-year mark, so you have some flexibility on timing.

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Don't forget about the search implications too. When you're doing your UCC searches, you want to make sure your collateral descriptions are searchable by other parties who might be looking for conflicts. If you use very unique or non-standard language, it might not show up in typical searches, which could cause problems down the road.

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Standard industry terminology probably makes the most sense for searchability.

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Exactly. Stick to terms that other lenders and searchers would expect to see. Don't get too creative with your descriptions.

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Final thought - make sure your general security agreement and UCC-1 are both dated consistently and that your UCC-1 is filed promptly after the GSA is executed. The timing can matter for priority purposes, especially if there are other creditors involved. You don't want any gaps that could let another creditor slip in ahead of you.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed guidance. This has been incredibly helpful for thinking through all the moving pieces. I feel much more confident about structuring this properly now.

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Just to close the loop on the document verification discussion - I tried Certana.ai on a recent deal and it caught a collateral description inconsistency I completely missed. Really worth the peace of mind on larger transactions like yours.

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The good news is this is totally fixable with a UCC-3 amendment. The bad news is it's going to add some time to your refinancing process. Make sure your new lender understands the timeline for getting the amendment processed. Most are pretty understanding about these things as long as you're proactive about fixing it.

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That's reassuring. I was worried the new lender might walk away from the deal over this.

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Nah, this stuff happens all the time in commercial lending. As long as you're working to fix it, most lenders will be patient.

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One more thing to consider - make sure your business insurance and other documentation also reflects the correct legal name. Sometimes name change issues cascade across multiple areas and you want to make sure everything is consistent.

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This is why I always recommend doing a complete review of all legal documents when a business changes names. It's a pain but it prevents these kinds of surprises later.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like the UCC-3 amendment is definitely the right approach. Going to get started on that paperwork today and hopefully get this resolved quickly.

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Don't stress about it. This is routine stuff that happens thousands of times every day. The important thing is that your brother is getting the financing he needs for his business. The UCC-1 is just paperwork protection for the bank.

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Thanks, that's reassuring. Sometimes all the legal terminology makes simple things sound scary.

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Totally understand that feeling. The financial world loves its acronyms and technical terms, but most of it is just standard business practice.

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One last thing - when the loan is eventually paid off, make sure the bank files a UCC-3 termination statement. That removes the public record of their security interest. Some banks are slow about this, so you might need to follow up.

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How long do they usually have to file the termination after the loan is paid off?

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It varies by state, but typically within 30-60 days after payoff. If they don't do it automatically, you can request it. Some lenders will even give you the termination statement at closing so you can file it yourself when the time comes.

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