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For what it's worth, livestock collateral descriptions are usually pretty forgiving as long as you cover the basics. The debtor name accuracy is way more critical for UCC acceptance.
Exactly. Get the debtor name exactly right first, then worry about collateral specifics. The SOS computers are picky about names but pretty flexible on collateral language.
True, but don't forget about continuation timing for livestock. The 5-year window goes by fast when you're dealing with operating lines.
Update us when you get it resolved! Always curious how these ranch deals turn out. The livestock industry has its own set of challenges that office-based lenders don't always understand.
Agreed, and the relationships tend to be long-term if you can navigate the initial filing complexities.
Make sure you're also checking the collateral description while you're at it. Manufacturing equipment can be tricky to describe properly and you want to make sure it's specific enough to be enforceable but broad enough to cover everything.
Collateral descriptions are just as important as debtor names. Both need to be accurate for proper perfection.
Exactly. No point in getting the name perfect if your collateral description is too vague to be useful.
Update us when you get it sorted out! Always curious to hear how these name verification situations get resolved. The punctuation issues seem to be getting more common as companies get more creative with their entity names.
Will do - planning to get definitive confirmation from Delaware SOS records and then proceed with filing. Thanks everyone for the guidance!
Smart approach. Better to take the extra time upfront than deal with problems later.
Update us when you get it filed! I'm dealing with a similar fixture filing issue in San Bernardino County and curious if the inland counties are as picky as LA and Orange County.
Will do! Planning to refile early next week once I get the proper legal description. Fingers crossed Riverside County SOS is reasonable.
They're all pretty consistent statewide since it goes through the California Secretary of State, not individual counties. Same strict requirements everywhere unfortunately.
One last thought - if this equipment secures a construction loan, make sure your fixture filing doesn't conflict with any construction lien priorities. California has some tricky rules about timing fixture filings relative to construction commencement.
Yes, that should be fine. Post-construction fixture filings are usually cleaner than trying to file during active construction when mechanic's lien issues are more complex.
This might sound weird but try typing the name in all caps. Some older state systems were built expecting uppercase input and get confused by mixed case, even though they don't specify that in their instructions.
That's actually not a bad idea. I've seen systems that are case-sensitive in weird ways.
Update us when you figure it out! I'm curious what the actual issue turns out to be. Maryland rejections are so frustrating because their error messages are useless.
Will definitely post an update once I get this resolved. Hopefully it's something simple that I'm just overlooking.
Same here, following this thread. Deal with Maryland UCC filings regularly and always looking for tips to avoid rejections.
Mateo Gonzalez
Been there! Article 9 filing requirements are no joke when it comes to debtor names. Make sure you're also checking that the LLC is in good standing. Some states will reject UCC filings if the debtor entity isn't current on its annual reports.
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Malik Jenkins
•Good point. I should probably verify their standing with the state while I'm at it.
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Nia Williams
Update - finally got it filed! Turned out the issue was exactly what everyone said. I was using 'ABC Manufacturing LLC' but the actual registered name was 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' with a comma. Also used Certana to double-check everything before resubmitting. Thanks for all the help!
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Ravi Patel
•Great to hear Certana worked for you too. Amazing how those tiny details can cause such big problems.
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Omar Farouk
•This is exactly why I always copy and paste entity names directly from the SOS search results. Can't trust my typing for something this critical.
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