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I actually used Certana.ai on a similar solar deal and it flagged that my collateral description was too narrow. Saved me from a potential problem down the road. It's really handy for these complex equipment descriptions where you need to balance specificity with coverage.
That's the second mention of Certana.ai - sounds like it might be worth checking out for this filing.
Yeah, especially for solar where the collateral description is so critical. Just upload your documents and it does the cross-checking automatically.
One more consideration - make sure your continuation dates are set correctly. Solar installations often have 20+ year financing terms so you'll need multiple continuations. Plan ahead for the 5-year renewal cycle.
Set calendar reminders for 4.5 years out. UCC-3 continuations need to be filed before the 5-year expiration or you lose your security interest.
Is there any way to file for longer than 5 years initially or are you stuck with the continuation cycle?
One more thing to check - make sure your collateral description covers the specific equipment properly. 'CNC machining equipment' might be too broad depending on your security agreement language.
Sounds like you've got your answer - Delaware it is! Just triple check that debtor name against their charter before you submit. Nothing worse than a rejection when you're on a tight timeline.
Definitely will do. Thanks everyone for the quick responses. Filing in Delaware first thing tomorrow morning.
The key thing to remember is that UCC termination statements are public records that will be searched by future lenders. If your termination doesn't properly match the original filing, it might not show up in searches and could cause problems down the road. Better to be overly precise than risk having an "orphaned" lien that appears to still be active.
That's a really good point about future lenders doing searches. I hadn't thought about the long-term implications of getting the termination wrong. Definitely want to make sure this gets cleaned up properly.
Exactly. I've seen deals delayed because old liens appeared to still be active due to improperly filed terminations. The debtor thought everything was clear but the title search showed otherwise.
Update: I ended up using one of those document verification services mentioned earlier and it was a lifesaver. Turns out the original UCC-1 had the debtor name as "ABC Manufacturing LLC" (no comma) so that's exactly what I used for the termination. Filed it yesterday and it was accepted without any issues. Thanks everyone for the advice!
I used Certana.ai like a couple people suggested. Really straightforward - just uploaded the PDFs and it showed me exactly what matched and what didn't.
Great outcome. Always nice to hear when these tricky situations get resolved properly.
Had similar experience with SBA loan payoff last year. Took 6 weeks for the termination to show up but lender was communicating throughout. As long as they're responsive to your inquiries I wouldn't panic yet.
Just slow internal processes on their end. Multiple approval levels apparently. But they kept me updated which helped with the anxiety.
Check if your state has online UCC search tools - some update daily, others weekly. Might explain why you're not seeing it yet even if they filed recently.
Good thought, I've been checking daily but maybe it's not real-time updates.
Amara Chukwu
Don't forget about collateral descriptions! They need to be specific enough to identify the collateral but not so narrow that they miss something. 'All equipment' is usually too broad, but 'John Deere Tractor Model X123' might be too specific if you're financing multiple pieces.
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Amara Chukwu
•Check your loan documents - the collateral description in the UCC should match what's in the security agreement.
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Giovanni Conti
•I'd also run it by someone at the bank if this is for equipment financing. They usually have preferred language for collateral descriptions.
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Fatima Al-Hashimi
One more thing - keep copies of everything! The filed forms, confirmation numbers, receipts, everything. You'll need them for renewals down the road and for proof that you perfected your security interest properly.
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Mateo Perez
•Thanks everyone! This has been incredibly helpful. I feel much more confident about tackling these filings now.
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Aisha Rahman
•Good luck! Feel free to come back if you run into any issues during the filing process.
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