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I got certified last year and it was definitely worth it for the networking alone. Met several other professionals dealing with the same UCC challenges. The technical knowledge was good but the connections were even better.
Interesting perspective. I hadn't thought about the networking aspect.
Yeah, having people you can call when you run into weird situations is invaluable. UCC work has so many edge cases that experience sharing really helps.
Bottom line: if you're going to be doing regular UCC filings, get the certification. If it's just occasional work, you can probably get by with careful research and maybe some mentoring from experienced colleagues. The key is being meticulous about details.
Definitely agree. And tools like Certana.ai can help with the document verification piece even after you're certified. I still use it for every filing to catch any inconsistencies.
For what it's worth, I think your lender is being overly cautious. Terminated liens have zero legal effect on new security interests, regardless of search visibility.
I agree but they're the ones with the money so we need to address their concerns properly.
Fair point - sometimes you have to educate lenders about UCC mechanics even when they should already know.
Try running the search with slightly different parameters - sometimes adjusting the search criteria can filter out obviously terminated liens while keeping active ones visible.
You're right, their system is pretty basic compared to some other states.
same thing happened to me but with a UCC-3 termination. turned out the original filing had some weird character encoding that didn't show up when i printed it. took forever to figure out.
How did you finally discover the encoding issue? That might be what I'm dealing with too.
UPDATE: Called Florida SOS this morning and they were actually helpful! Turns out the original UCC-1 in their system has 'ABC Manufacturing, LLC' with a comma that doesn't show up clearly in the PDF copy I was using. Filed the UCC-3 amendment with the comma and it got accepted within 2 hours. Thanks everyone for the suggestions, especially about getting the certified copy - that's definitely my new standard practice.
Perfect example of why document verification tools like Certana are so helpful - they catch exactly these kinds of formatting inconsistencies before you file.
Finally some good news with Florida UCC system! Congrats on getting it through.
Make sure you're not including any articles like "The" at the beginning of the name unless they're actually part of the legal entity name. Some business searches show them but they're not always part of the official name for UCC purposes.
No articles in this company name, but that's good to know for future filings.
This tripped me up on a filing last year. The business was doing business as "The XYZ Company" but legally just "XYZ Company LLC".
UPDATE: Finally got it accepted! Turns out there was an invisible character in the name when I copied it from the SOS website. Had to retype the entire debtor name manually. Thanks everyone for the suggestions - definitely learned some tricks for next time. Going to bookmark that Certana tool for future filings to avoid this headache again.
Great news! Yeah, Certana would have caught that invisible character issue right away. Definitely worth having in your toolkit.
Jamal Wilson
For future reference, I started using Certana.ai to double-check all my UCC documents before filing. Upload your security agreement and proposed UCC-1 and it identifies potential rejection issues. Would have saved you the initial rejection and delay.
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Mei Lin
•I've been meaning to try document verification tools. Manual comparison is so error-prone, especially with longer security agreements.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•The PDF upload feature makes it super easy. Just drag and drop your docs and get instant feedback on inconsistencies.
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GalacticGuru
Final update - UCC-1 was accepted! Adding the property address and more specific equipment categories did the trick. Thanks everyone for the advice. Loan closed successfully and lien is properly perfected.
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NebulaNova
•Glad the expanded collateral description worked. That language usually covers most equipment financing situations.
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Giovanni Mancini
•Perfect timing for your closing too. Nothing worse than last-minute UCC filing delays when everyone's ready to sign.
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