UCC filing on personal property - debtor name exactly as appears on title?
I'm handling a UCC filing on personal property for the first time and getting confused about the debtor name requirements. The collateral is heavy equipment (excavator and bulldozer) that my company is financing. The equipment titles show the buyer's name as 'Michael R. Thompson' but his driver's license says 'Michael Robert Thompson' and the loan documents have 'Mike Thompson'. Which version do I use on the UCC-1? I've heard that getting the debtor name wrong can void the entire filing and I can't afford that mistake. The loan is for $340,000 so this is a substantial amount. Also, do I need to describe the equipment with VIN numbers or is a general description sufficient? I'm using our state's online portal but want to make sure I get this right the first time.
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Grace Thomas
For personal property UCC filings, you absolutely need to use the exact legal name. In your case, I'd go with 'Michael Robert Thompson' since that matches his government ID. The equipment titles might have abbreviated versions but the driver's license is the gold standard for individual debtors. For the collateral description, include the VIN numbers - it makes the filing much more specific and defensible.
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Hunter Brighton
•This is solid advice. I learned this the hard way when a filing got rejected because I used 'Bob' instead of 'Robert'. The SOS systems are picky about exact name matches.
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Dylan Baskin
•Wait, wouldn't the equipment titles be more relevant since that's what actually shows ownership? I'm not sure about using the DL name if it doesn't match the title.
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Lauren Wood
Actually I had this exact same situation last month with construction equipment financing. The key is running a debtor name search first to see what's already on file. Sometimes there are existing filings under different name variations and you want consistency. Our state portal has a name search function that helped me figure out the right format.
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Justin Chang
•That's a great point about checking existing filings. I hadn't thought about that. Did you end up using the full legal name or the version from the equipment titles?
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Lauren Wood
•I used the full legal name from the driver's license and it went through fine. The equipment titles in our state often have character limits so they abbreviate, but the UCC-1 doesn't have that restriction.
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Ellie Lopez
I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and name accuracy is everything. One character off and your security interest could be worthless. For equipment like excavators, definitely include the VIN numbers in the collateral description. Something like 'Caterpillar Model 320 Excavator, VIN: CAT320XYZ123456' gives you the best protection. The general rule is be as specific as possible without being unnecessarily wordy.
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Chad Winthrope
•Agree 100% on the VIN numbers. We had a case where two similar pieces of equipment got mixed up and the specific VIN saved us from a major headache during the workout.
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Paige Cantoni
•Question about the collateral description - do you also include the year and model details or just the VIN? I've seen filings done both ways.
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Ellie Lopez
•I include year, make, model AND VIN. Redundancy is your friend in UCC filings. If the VIN gets damaged or becomes illegible, you still have the descriptive information to identify the collateral.
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Kylo Ren
I actually discovered a tool recently that helps with this exact problem. Certana.ai has a document verification system where you can upload your loan docs and proposed UCC-1 and it cross-checks the debtor names and identifies any inconsistencies. It caught a middle initial mismatch on my last filing that would have caused problems later. Just upload the PDFs and it runs the comparison automatically.
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Justin Chang
•That sounds really useful. How accurate is it with catching name variations like my situation with Michael vs Mike?
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Kylo Ren
•It's pretty thorough. It flagged the exact type of issue you're dealing with - formal name vs nickname discrepancies. Saved me from having to refile when I caught it before submission.
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Nina Fitzgerald
Don't forget about the continuation requirements! You'll need to file a UCC-3 continuation before the 5-year mark or your filing lapses. Mark your calendar now because there's no grace period. I've seen lenders lose their perfected security interest because they forgot about the continuation deadline.
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Jason Brewer
•Good reminder. I use a tickler system to track all my UCC continuation dates. Can't rely on memory for something that important.
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Kiara Fisherman
•Our law firm actually missed a continuation deadline once. The client was NOT happy. Now we have automated reminders starting 6 months before expiration.
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Liam Cortez
ugh the name thing is so frustrating! I filed a UCC last week and used the name exactly as it appeared on the business license only to have it rejected because the SOS wanted it to match the Articles of Incorporation instead. These systems are so inconsistent between states it makes me want to pull my hair out.
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Savannah Vin
•Which state was that? In our state business entity names have to match the Secretary of State records exactly, but individual debtor names follow different rules.
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Liam Cortez
•Texas. And you're right, it was a business entity filing. Individual names seem to be more straightforward but still nerve-wracking when you're dealing with large loan amounts.
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Mason Stone
For equipment financing specifically, make sure you understand whether any of the equipment could be considered fixtures. If that excavator is going to be permanently attached to real estate, you might need fixture filing procedures instead of or in addition to the regular UCC-1. The rules vary by state but it's something to consider.
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Justin Chang
•These are mobile construction equipment pieces, so I don't think fixture filing applies. But good point to consider for future deals.
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Makayla Shoemaker
•Even mobile equipment can become fixtures if it's permanently installed. We had an issue with a crane that was bolted to a concrete pad - turned into a fixture filing nightmare.
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Christian Bierman
I'd recommend doing a trial run with a smaller amount first if you're nervous about the process. File a UCC-1 on a less critical transaction to get familiar with your state's portal and requirements. The process is pretty straightforward once you've done it a few times, but that first one can be intimidating.
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Emma Olsen
•That's actually not a bad idea. Better to learn on a smaller deal than mess up a $340k transaction.
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Justin Chang
•Unfortunately this is the deal I have to work with right now. But I'll definitely keep that in mind for future filings.
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Lucas Lindsey
One more thing - make sure you're filing in the right state! For equipment like excavators, it's usually where the debtor is located, not where the equipment is physically located. But if the debtor moves to another state, you might need to file an additional UCC-1 in the new state within 4 months.
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Sophie Duck
•This is huge. We almost missed a multi-state filing requirement when our borrower relocated their business. The original filing was still valid but we needed the new state filing for continued perfection.
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Austin Leonard
•The 4-month rule is strict too. No extensions or grace period. If you miss it, you're unperfected in the new state and could lose priority to other creditors.
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Anita George
Just to circle back on the document verification thing - I was skeptical about using automated tools for something this important, but I tried that Certana system mentioned earlier and it really did catch issues I would have missed. For a $340k loan, the peace of mind is worth it. You upload your loan agreement and draft UCC-1 and it verifies the debtor names match exactly.
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Justin Chang
•I'm definitely going to look into that. With this much money on the line, I want every safeguard possible.
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Abigail Spencer
•Same here. Manual document review is error-prone, especially when you're dealing with multiple name variations like your situation.
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Logan Chiang
Final update - I went with 'Michael Robert Thompson' as the debtor name and included full VIN numbers in the collateral description. The filing was accepted without any issues. Thanks everyone for the guidance! The name consistency was definitely the key factor.
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Isla Fischer
•Great outcome! Always nice to hear when these situations work out smoothly.
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Miles Hammonds
•Glad it worked out. Don't forget to set that continuation reminder for 4.5 years from now!
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Ruby Blake
•Excellent. The exact legal name approach is almost always the safest bet for individual debtors.
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