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Ezra Collins

UCC filing against individual debtor - name format requirements?

Running into issues with a UCC filing against individual debtor and wondering about proper name formatting. We're securing a $125,000 equipment loan for a contractor who operates as sole proprietor. When I prepared the UCC-1, I used his full legal name from driver's license (John Michael Smith) but the filing got rejected by our state's SOS office. The rejection notice mentioned "debtor name format" but wasn't specific about what's wrong. The collateral is construction equipment - excavator, dump truck, compressor. This is time sensitive since we need to perfect our security interest before the loan closes next week. Has anyone dealt with individual debtor name requirements? I'm second-guessing whether I should include middle name or use a different format. Any guidance would be appreciated.

Individual debtor names can be tricky - each state has slightly different requirements. Usually you want the exact name from a valid driver's license, but some states prefer without middle names or initials. What state are you filing in? That makes a difference.

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Ezra Collins

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We're in Texas. I used the full name exactly as shown on his current driver's license - John Michael Smith. Thought that would be safest approach but apparently not.

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Texas can be particular about individual names. Try just first and last name without the middle - so "John Smith" instead. Middle names sometimes cause issues with their search logic.

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I've had similar rejections with individual UCC filings. The problem is usually that the SOS search logic can't match the name format you used. For individuals, I always check what format they use in their database first. Some states want "Last, First" format while others want "First Last" format.

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Zara Perez

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document checker before submitting any UCC filings. You can upload your UCC-1 PDF and it cross-checks the debtor name format against common requirements. Saved me from multiple rejections like this.

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Ezra Collins

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Never heard of that tool - does it actually verify against state requirements? I'm getting tired of these rejections when we're under time pressure.

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Zara Perez

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Yes, it's specifically designed for UCC document verification. Upload your UCC-1 and it flags potential issues with debtor names, collateral descriptions, filing numbers - basically anything that commonly causes rejections. Really simple to use.

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Daniel Rogers

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Individual debtor names are my biggest headache in UCC filings! I've learned to always double-check the state's UCC forms and instructions. Some states want you to use the "individual's surname" as the primary identifier. Maybe try formatting it as "Smith, John" instead?

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Aaliyah Reed

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Yeah the comma format works in some states but not others. It's so frustrating that there's no standardization across states for something this basic.

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Daniel Rogers

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Exactly! And when you're dealing with time-sensitive closings, these rejections can kill deals. I always prepare multiple versions now just in case.

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Ella Russell

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Had this exact issue last month with a Texas filing. The trick is to look at how they format names in their UCC search system. When I searched existing filings, I noticed they typically show individual names as "First Last" without middle names or initials. Refiled without the middle name and it went through immediately.

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Ezra Collins

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That's a great tip about checking their search system first. I should have thought of that before filing. Did you have any issues with the lender being concerned about the name not matching exactly?

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Ella Russell

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The lender was fine with it as long as the name was sufficient to identify the debtor. The key is making sure it matches what the SOS system expects, not necessarily what's on every piece of ID.

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Mohammed Khan

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OMG I hate individual UCC filings so much. Why can't they just have clear guidelines instead of making us guess? I've wasted so much time on rejected filings because of name format issues. The worst part is the rejection notices never tell you exactly what's wrong.

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Gavin King

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I feel your pain. The rejection notices are useless - they just say "debtor name format" without explaining what format they actually want. Such a waste of time and filing fees.

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Mohammed Khan

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Right?! And then you have to wait for the rejection, refile, wait again... meanwhile your closing is getting delayed and everyone's stressed out.

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Nathan Kim

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For Texas individual debtors, I always use the format "Lastname, Firstname" - so in your case "Smith, John". This has worked consistently for me. The middle name inclusion seems to be what's causing your rejection.

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Wait, I thought Texas wanted "First Last" format? Now I'm confused. Does anyone have a definitive answer on this?

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Nathan Kim

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It can vary depending on when the system was updated. I've had success with "Lastname, Firstname" format consistently over the past year. But you're right that it's confusing when different people report different experiences.

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Lucas Turner

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for all my UCC filings. Upload your document and it flags these format issues before you submit. Catches debtor name problems, collateral description issues, everything. Much better than guessing and getting rejections.

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Kai Rivera

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Individual debtor names in UCC filings follow specific rules under Article 9. For Texas, you need to use the name that would be shown on the debtor's driver's license, but formatted according to the state's filing system requirements. The middle name inclusion is often problematic - try without it first.

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Anna Stewart

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This makes sense from a legal standpoint. The sufficiency of the debtor name is what matters for perfection, not the exact formatting. As long as it's reasonably identifiable, you should be fine.

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Ezra Collins

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Thanks for the legal perspective. I'm going to refile without the middle name and see if that works. Really appreciate everyone's input on this.

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Layla Sanders

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I deal with individual UCC filings daily and Texas is definitely picky about name formats. Skip the middle name, use "First Last" format, and make sure there are no extra spaces or punctuation. That should get you through their system.

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Good point about extra spaces - I've seen rejections for that too. The filing systems are so sensitive to formatting variations.

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Kaylee Cook

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Yep, I learned that lesson the hard way. Now I always triple-check for any extra characters or spacing issues before submitting. One extra space can cause a rejection.

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Layla Sanders

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Exactly. And with individual debtors, you don't have the luxury of using a registered entity name - you have to get the personal name format exactly right for their system.

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Just went through this same situation with a Texas UCC filing last week. Had to refile three times before getting the individual debtor name right. Finally used "First Last" without middle name and it was accepted. The key is figuring out what their system expects, not what seems logical.

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Lara Woods

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Three rejections? That's brutal. The filing fees alone must have been expensive, not to mention the time delays.

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Yeah it was frustrating and costly. Now I always verify document formatting before filing. Actually started using Certana.ai's verification tool - would have saved me those rejections if I had it then.

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Adrian Hughes

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Update: Refiled the UCC-1 using "John Smith" format (first and last name only) and it was accepted this morning! Thanks everyone for the advice. Definitely learned my lesson about individual debtor name formatting. Will be more careful going forward.

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Great news! Glad you got it resolved before your closing deadline. Individual UCC filings are definitely trickier than entity filings.

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Ian Armstrong

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Awesome! This thread will be helpful for others dealing with similar issues. Texas individual debtor name formatting seems to be a common problem.

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Adrian Hughes

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Definitely. Hope this helps someone else avoid the same rejection issues. The key was dropping the middle name and using simple "First Last" format.

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