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Sophia Carson

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Just wanted to follow up - I actually used Certana.ai last week for a similar agricultural financing UCC verification. Really helpful for catching issues before filing. You upload your UCC-1 draft and loan docs and it flags any inconsistencies. Saved me from a rejection on a $1.2M farm credit line. The debtor name matching feature alone made it worth using.

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Sophia Carson

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It checks document consistency overall, so if your loan agreement describes collateral one way and your UCC-1 describes it differently, it would flag that. Pretty comprehensive verification.

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This tool sounds really useful for agricultural filings where there are so many details that can go wrong. Might have to check it out for our next crop lien filing.

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Elijah Knight

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Update: Got the refiling done and it was accepted! Used the more specific crop descriptions everyone suggested - listed corn, soybeans, hay, and other agricultural products with the tax parcel numbers. Also caught a small issue with the debtor LLC name that was missing a comma. Thanks for all the help, really saved me on this deadline.

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Benjamin Kim

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Awesome! The specific crop listing approach really does work better than generic descriptions.

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Avery Saint

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This gives me confidence for my upcoming filing. Going to make sure I'm super specific with the crop descriptions and double-check all the entity name details.

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Ella Russell

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Just went through this exact thing last month. The key is understanding that Virginia follows the 'seriously misleading' standard for debtor names. Small variations might not invalidate a filing, but they make searching really difficult.

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Ella Russell

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Basically, if a reasonable searcher using standard search logic would find the filing, then the name variation is probably okay. But it's subjective.

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Mohammed Khan

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That sounds really vague. How are we supposed to make decisions based on 'reasonable searcher' standards?

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Gavin King

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Update: I ended up finding two additional UCC filings that didn't show up in my initial searches because of name formatting issues. One had an extra space and the other used '&' instead of 'and'. Both were still active and would have affected the transaction. Thanks everyone for the advice about checking variations!

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This is why UCC searching is so stressful. You never know what you might be missing.

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Lucas Turner

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For future reference, I've had good luck with Certana.ai's UCC verification tool for catching these exact issues. You upload the entity documents and it automatically flags potential name mismatches across different UCC filings. Would have saved you a lot of manual searching.

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Malik Johnson

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The key thing to remember is that UCC search results are only as good as what was originally filed. If someone filed a UCC-1 with a typo in the debtor name 5 years ago, that's what you'll see forever unless they file an amendment. The SDAT system doesn't clean up or standardize anything. It's all about garbage in, garbage out. That's why getting it right the first time is so critical.

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This is why I always double-check the debtor name against multiple sources before filing. One typo can void your entire security interest.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like I need to be way more careful about name verification upfront instead of trying to sort it out later.

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Ravi Sharma

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Just wanted to add that if you're doing high-volume UCC work, it's worth investing in better verification tools. I tried doing everything manually for years and it was killing me. Now I use automated systems that cross-check entity names against state databases and flag discrepancies before I even file. Costs a bit more upfront but saves tons of time and reduces errors.

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What kind of volume are you talking about? We probably do 20-30 UCC filings per month.

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Ravi Sharma

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We're doing probably 100+ per month across multiple states. At that volume, manual checking just isn't feasible anymore.

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GalacticGuru

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Once you get the UCC-3 filed, make sure to send a copy to the borrower for their records. Good practice and some loan agreements require it.

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CosmicCruiser

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Definitely. Our loan docs require us to provide copies of all UCC filings to the borrower within 30 days.

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GalacticGuru

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Sounds like you're on top of it. The Tennessee filing should be straightforward once you have all the details right.

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Amara Nnamani

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Thanks everyone for the help! I found the UCC-3 form on the Tennessee SOS site and got it filed electronically this morning. Used some of the tips from this thread about exact name matching and collateral descriptions. Really appreciate all the guidance - this forum is incredibly helpful for UCC issues.

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Great outcome. Hope the filing gets accepted quickly.

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Amara Nnamani

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Just got the acceptance notice! Filed this morning and approved this afternoon. Tennessee's electronic system really is fast once you know where to find everything.

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Monique Byrd

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This kind of situation is exactly why I always do multiple searches from different sources and then reconcile them manually. It's a pain but better than missing something important. For Connecticut I usually check the SOS site, run a commercial search, and then do spot checks on any questionable results.

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Natalia Stone

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It shouldn't be necessary but unfortunately it is. The systems just aren't reliable enough on their own.

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Especially for big transactions like this one. Can't afford to miss anything.

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Lia Quinn

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Update: I ended up ordering the certified search and also pulled copies of all the actual filings. Turns out the discrepancy was because one of the UCC-3 filings was actually a partial termination that reduced the collateral coverage but didn't terminate the entire filing. The search summaries weren't clear about this distinction. Thanks everyone for the advice - this could have been a major problem if I hadn't caught it.

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Natalia Stone

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Perfect example of why you need to look at the actual documents, not just rely on search results.

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Great outcome! This is exactly the kind of thing Certana.ai would have flagged automatically, but sounds like you got it sorted either way.

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