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Whatever approach you use, document everything! Keep records of when you searched, what databases you checked, and what results you got. Your client will want this for their files and it protects you if something gets missed. Also consider getting UCC insurance if the deal size justifies it.

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Agree on documentation. We create a detailed search report for every entity showing exactly what we checked and when. CYA is critical in M&A work.

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Exactly. Better to over-document than get blamed later for missing something. Mass corp UCC searches are complex enough without adding liability concerns.

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Justin Trejo

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Don't forget to check for UCC-1 continuation filings if you find older liens. A UCC-1 expires after 5 years unless continued, so something filed in 2019 might look active but could actually be lapsed if not properly continued. This is especially important in mass corp UCC searches where you're dealing with lots of entities and time periods.

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Alana Willis

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This is so important! We've seen deals where everyone assumed old UCC filings were still valid but they'd actually lapsed. Always check the continuation status.

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Tasia Synder

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Great point about continuation filings. With 200+ entities this is definitely something I need to track carefully. Thanks for the reminder.

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Jayden Reed

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One more thing to consider - check if your state has any specific rules about LLC name variations. Some states are more forgiving about punctuation in LLC names than others. But honestly, just file the amendment. It's not worth the research time when the fix is so simple.

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Nora Brooks

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Good point about state variations. The UCC rules are generally uniform but some states have quirky interpretations.

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Eli Wang

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Exactly. And even if your state is forgiving, you never know if the loan might get sold to someone in a stricter jurisdiction.

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Update for everyone following this thread - I filed the UCC-3 amendment this morning and it was accepted within 2 hours. The corrected UCC filing records now show the proper debtor name with the comma. Thanks everyone for the advice! This could have been a major problem if we hadn't caught it. Definitely going to implement better name-checking procedures going forward.

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Awesome that you got it resolved so quickly. Electronic UCC-3 filing is definitely the way to go for corrections.

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Ethan Scott

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Smart move fixing it immediately. Now you can sleep soundly knowing your security interest is properly perfected!

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Document everything in writing with the lessor. If they're insisting on a name format that doesn't match your corporate records, get their reasoning in writing. This protects you if there are later disputes about the security interest perfection. The lessor has a duty to ensure proper filing, but you also need to protect your interests.

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Philip Cowan

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Good point about documentation. I'll request written confirmation of their preferred debtor name format and the reasoning behind it.

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Just went through something similar with restaurant equipment leasing. What finally worked was having our corporate attorney contact the lessor's legal department directly. Sometimes it takes lawyer-to-lawyer communication to resolve these name matching disputes quickly. The attorney fees were worth it to avoid delays in equipment delivery.

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Unfortunately true, but when you're dealing with expensive equipment and tight deadlines, sometimes you need the legal pressure to move things along.

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The attorney involvement also creates a paper trail that can be important if the security interest is ever challenged.

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Kiara Greene

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I'm dealing with a similar equipment loan situation and was also confused about this. Thanks for asking the question - the responses here cleared up a lot of confusion about the difference between security agreements and UCC-1 filings.

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Evelyn Kelly

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Same here. I was overthinking this whole process. Glad to know the standard UCC-1 approach is the right way to go.

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Paloma Clark

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This thread should be required reading for new commercial lenders. Basic but important distinction to understand.

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Heather Tyson

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Bottom line: prepare your UCC-1 financing statement with the correct debtor name, collateral description, and secured party information. File that for perfection. Keep your security agreement as a private contract. This is the standard approach that avoids all the complications mentioned in this thread.

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Raul Neal

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Perfect summary. This is exactly what I needed to hear to feel confident about my filing approach.

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Jenna Sloan

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Agreed. Sometimes the simple, standard approach is the best approach. No need to reinvent the wheel with UCC filings.

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Zadie Patel

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Just went through this exact scenario with a client last month. Turned out the issue was that their corporate name had changed slightly when they amended their articles but the old name was still showing in some databases. Had to get a certified copy of the current articles to prove the correct name. Might be worth checking if there have been any amendments to your LLC filing.

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Zadie Patel

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Possibly, especially if there were any typos in the amendment. I'd request a current certified copy of your articles to make sure you're using the exact current name.

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This is why I always get a fresh certified copy before any major filings. The SOS databases don't always update immediately after amendments.

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Update us on how this turns out! Equipment loan UCC filings are always nerve-wracking because there's so much money involved. Hope you get it sorted before your rate lock expires.

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Will do! Going to try the Certana document checker first thing tomorrow morning and hopefully catch whatever invisible issue is causing the rejections. Really appreciate all the advice from everyone.

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Emma Morales

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Good luck! The invisible character thing is so common - I bet that's exactly what's happening with your debtor name.

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