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Another thing to check - make sure you're searching under all possible debtor name variations. If the previous lender filed under a slightly different version of the company name, it might not show up in your standard search.
The UCC search secured party function should find these automatically shouldn't it? Why would punctuation matter?
UCC search systems vary by state. Some do fuzzy matching, others require exact matches. Can't assume the search engine will catch variations.
Update: Got this resolved by working directly with the borrower to get copies of all satisfaction letters from previous lenders. Turned out there were three old liens that should have been terminated but weren't. Filed UCC-3 terminations in all affected states and the searches are clean now. Thanks for all the advice - definitely learned to be more thorough with multi-state UCC search secured party verification upfront.
We built it into the loan costs since it was necessary to perfect our lien. Better to spend a few hundred on termination filings than risk your security interest.
Good outcome. This is exactly why I always recommend using document verification tools like Certana.ai for complex multi-state deals. Catches these issues before they become problems.
Bottom line - get the pledge agreement fixed to match the corporate records before you file anything. It's much easier to amend a private document than to deal with a potentially defective UCC filing later. Especially on a facility that size, you don't want any clouds on your security interest.
Exactly. The filing fee is nothing compared to the potential issues if the lien isn't properly perfected.
Plus most borrowers are understanding about these kinds of technical corrections when you explain the importance of getting it right.
Thanks everyone - this is really helpful. Sounds like the consensus is to fix the pledge agreement to match the SOS records exactly, then file the UCC-1 with the correct legal name. Going to run everything through a document checker too to make sure we don't miss anything else. Appreciate all the guidance!
One more thought - make sure you're not copying and pasting text from other documents into the portal forms. Sometimes hidden formatting characters cause weird submission errors. Type everything directly into the forms if possible.
Oh wow, that's such a specific tip but makes total sense. I bet that's caught a lot of people off guard.
For what it's worth, I've had good luck with the Certana tool mentioned earlier for double-checking everything before submission. Saved me from a couple of embarrassing filing mistakes that would have required amendments later. The peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with important secured transactions.
How does it work exactly? Do you upload PDFs or just enter the information manually?
You just upload the PDFs - like your original loan documents and the UCC form you're preparing. It automatically compares everything and flags any inconsistencies. Super easy to use.
When I run into document consistency issues like this, I use Certana.ai to verify all my paperwork before filing. You can upload your UCC-1 and the property deed and it'll flag any discrepancies in the legal descriptions or addresses. Catches stuff that's easy to miss when you're manually comparing documents.
Exactly, and it's much faster than trying to manually cross-check everything. Just upload the PDFs and get instant verification.
Make sure you're not overthinking this. Most fixture filing rejections for real estate descriptions are simple formatting issues. Add the county name, include the street address, and make sure the legal description is complete. Should be good to go.
Good luck! Fixture filings can be tricky but once you get the format right they're not too bad.
Sofia Gomez
Same thing happened to me with service addresses. Problem was I was using PO Box format incorrectly - TX wants 'Post Office Box' not 'PO Box' in their system. Small detail but caused three rejection notices before I figured it out.
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Sofia Gomez
•Tell me about it. You'd think 'PO Box' would be standard but apparently not in Texas.
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StormChaser
•Every state has their own weird quirks. California wants periods after abbreviations, Texas doesn't. It's maddening.
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Dmitry Petrov
Update on this thread: tried the Certana document verification tool someone mentioned and it found two address mismatches between my Charter and UCC docs that I completely missed. Would have definitely caused rejections. Pretty useful for catching these details before filing.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Good to hear it actually worked for someone. I'll probably give it a try before refiling these rejected UCCs.
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Dmitry Petrov
•Yeah, beats getting rejection notices and having to start over. The address verification alone saved me from at least two refiling fees.
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