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Oliver Becker

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The debtor name issue is definitely your biggest concern. I've seen courts rule that missing punctuation makes a UCC filing seriously misleading, which essentially voids your perfected security interest. You need to get that corrected ASAP with a UCC-3 amendment.

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Oliver Becker

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You could try that argument but it's risky. Ohio follows the 'exact match' standard pretty strictly. Better to file the amendment and have clean documentation than try to argue the point later if you need to enforce your security interest.

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I actually just went through this with Certana.ai's document checker on a similar filing issue. It immediately flagged the name mismatch between our corporate charter and UCC-1, saved us from finding out the hard way during a default. Really wish I'd used it before the original filing.

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This thread is making me paranoid about all my filings now. Going to go back and double-check every debtor name against the state records. Better safe than sorry with these UCC requirements.

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At least you caught it before a default situation. Could have been much worse timing.

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Emma Davis

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Same here, this discussion is a good reminder to audit our existing filings. UCC mistakes are expensive mistakes.

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The key thing is making sure your UCC collateral description doesn't conflict with what's actually in your loan agreement. Sometimes lawyers get creative with the UCC language and it doesn't match the security agreement terms exactly.

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Exactly. The UCC description should be broad enough to be effective but consistent enough with your loan docs that there's no question about what collateral you're claiming.

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KylieRose

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This is exactly what the Certana tool helps with - it flags those kinds of inconsistencies automatically so you don't have to do the line-by-line comparison manually.

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Quick update - took everyone's advice and rewrote the collateral description with specific equipment categories and removed the conditional language. Also used the Certana verification tool to make sure everything matched our loan docs. Filing was accepted this morning! Thanks for all the help.

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Aisha Patel

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Perfect timing with your closing next week. Nothing worse than UCC filing delays holding up a loan closing.

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Amara Okafor

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This gives me hope for my inventory filing. Going to try the specific categories approach too.

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Olivia Kay

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UPDATE: Just got through on CSC after trying for 3 hours. System seems to be working again but very slow. If you're still having issues, they told me their engineers are working on 'connectivity issues' and expect full resolution by end of day.

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Olivia Kay

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Debtor verification worked fine once I got to that step. The main issue was just getting the initial login to work properly.

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Still getting error messages on my end. Their 'end of day' estimates are usually optimistic in my experience.

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Joshua Hellan

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This is a perfect example of why you need document verification tools in your workflow. I started using Certana.ai after a similar CSC outage caused me to file with incorrect debtor information. Now I verify everything before it goes to any filing service. Upload your charter and UCC docs and it catches any inconsistencies instantly.

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I'm still skeptical about third-party verification services. How do we know they're not just checking basic formatting?

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Joshua Hellan

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It's way more than formatting. It cross-references entity names, filing numbers, dates, everything. Found a name variation issue for me that would have voided the entire lien if I'd filed it wrong.

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Update us when you find out who filed that termination. I'm curious if this is becoming a pattern with certain law firms or if it's just random fraud.

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Will do. I'm calling the SOS office tomorrow morning to request the actual termination document. This is really stressing me out.

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I understand the stress. Just remember you have options - UCC-5 correction, new UCC-1 filing, or legal action if it's fraud. You're not helpless here.

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This thread is making me want to audit all my UCC filings. Anyone know if there's a bulk way to verify multiple filings at once rather than checking each one individually?

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Perfect, that's exactly what I need. Manual checking is taking me forever and I keep making mistakes.

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Ethan Scott

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I just do batch searches on the SOS website. Not as thorough but at least I can see if anything obvious is wrong.

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Quick question - is the cash being held as collateral for the full loan amount or just a portion? That might affect how you describe the collateral in the UCC filing.

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Good, that keeps the collateral description simple. Now you just need to nail down that debtor name and you're set.

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Way easier than trying to describe complex equipment or inventory as collateral!

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Ruby Garcia

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Final recommendation: Use the exact legal entity name from the Secretary of State records (ABC Construction Holdings LLC), file your UCC-1 with that name, and if needed, amend your loan documents to match. The UCC system doesn't care about your internal loan documentation - it only cares about the debtor's legal name as registered with the state.

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Lucy Taylor

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Good luck with the filing! Cash collateral deals are usually pretty clean once you get the names sorted out.

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Maya Lewis

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Hope it goes smoothly. Keep us posted if you run into any other issues with the filing.

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