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I feel for you. Had a similar situation in Florida and it took five attempts to get it right. Turned out the LLC had changed their registered agent address and that was throwing off the system match.

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Oh yeah, they were not happy. Started threatening to pull the deal if I couldn't get it perfected. Stressful situation for sure.

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This is why I always build extra time into my filing schedules. These systems are just too unpredictable.

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Update us when you figure it out! I bookmark these threads because I inevitably run into the same issues down the road.

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Caleb Stone

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Will do. Going to try one more time tomorrow with just the exact legal name from the most recent SOS search and the principal business address.

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Good luck! Fingers crossed the fourth time's the charm.

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For what it's worth, I've had decent success with Delaware's free UCC search system, but I always do multiple searches with different name variations and I print everything out for my records. The key is being systematic about it. Create a checklist of all the name variations you need to search and work through them methodically.

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I usually start with the exact legal name from the corporate records, then try common abbreviations, with and without punctuation, any DBAs, and former names if I can find them. It's tedious but thorough.

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ThunderBolt7

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Good approach. I'd also add checking for any parent company or subsidiary names if it's part of a larger corporate structure.

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Dylan Hughes

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One more tool that might help - some title companies offer UCC search services at reasonable rates if you're already working with them on the transaction. Might be worth asking if they can bundle it with other closing services.

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Yuki Watanabe

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That's a great suggestion. We are working with a title company for some of the real estate aspects. I'll definitely ask them about UCC search services.

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Andre Dupont

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Title companies often have access to better search databases than what's available to the public for free. Could be a good middle-ground solution.

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Layla Sanders

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You mentioned attorney involvement - are they experienced with California UCC filings specifically? Some attorneys are great with general secured transactions but don't know the state-specific quirks.

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California has enough unique requirements that you really want someone who files there regularly.

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Kaylee Cook

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Or use tools that help catch the state-specific issues automatically rather than relying on attorney knowledge.

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Update us when you figure it out! These California rejection stories always make me nervous about my own filings there.

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Will do. Going to try the document verification approach and see if that catches what I'm missing.

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Lara Woods

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Following this thread too. Dealing with similar issues on a different CA deal.

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Ana Rusula

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Update on that Certana tool I mentioned earlier - I just used it again yesterday for a different UCC-3 and it caught a small typo in the debtor's business name that I would have totally missed. Definitely worth the few minutes to double-check your paperwork before filing.

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I'm convinced - going to try that before I file. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Any tool that prevents filing errors is worth using. Manual review misses too much.

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm going to call the borrower tomorrow to explain our process and timeline, then use that document verification tool before filing. Better to do it right than fast. Appreciate all the input!

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Ana Rusula

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Smart plan. The verification step will give you peace of mind before filing.

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Axel Bourke

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Perfect. That phone call will probably solve 90% of the pressure you're feeling.

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Liam Mendez

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For what it's worth, I had a similar name mismatch issue last year and ended up having to file amendments on 12 different UCC-1s. Cost us about $600 in filing fees but was worth it for peace of mind on a $5M portfolio.

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Freya Thomsen

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That's helpful to know - I was wondering about the cost/benefit of filing amendments versus taking the risk.

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Sophia Nguyen

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Always better to fix it proactively. The cost of amendments is nothing compared to losing your security interest.

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Just want to add that if you're doing a lot of UCC work, it's worth investing in good verification processes upfront. I use a combination of automated tools and manual double-checking. For the automated part, Certana.ai has been reliable for catching document inconsistencies. The peace of mind is worth it when you're dealing with large loan amounts.

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What's your manual double-checking process look like?

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I pull fresh organizational documents from the state database, compare with our loan docs, then run everything through the automated checker before filing. Takes an extra 15 minutes but catches issues early.

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