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Yuki Tanaka

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Don't forget about terminated filings in your UCC-1 list! You need to track those too for audit purposes. Some examiners want to see that you properly terminated liens when loans were paid off. I keep a separate 'terminated' section in my spreadsheet.

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Good point. We probably have 50+ terminated UCCs I should account for.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Make sure you filed UCC-3 termination statements for those. Just paying off the loan doesn't automatically terminate the UCC filing.

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MidnightRider

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Quick question - are you tracking UCC-3 amendments in your list too? If you've done any amendments to add collateral or change debtor info, those need to be reflected in your master list. The continuation calculations are still based on the original UCC-1 date though.

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MidnightRider

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Yeah, amendments can get messy. Each one should reference the original filing number so you can track the chain of filings for each loan.

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Andre Laurent

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This is exactly why I started using automated tools. Too many moving parts to track manually without making mistakes.

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Khalid Howes

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One thing that's helped me is creating a spreadsheet with all possible name variations before I start searching. Include legal name, DBAs, common abbreviations, with and without punctuation, etc. Then systematically work through each one.

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Naila Gordon

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Organization definitely helps. These searches can get overwhelming without a clear methodology.

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Cynthia Love

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I do something similar but also include phonetic variations. You'd be surprised how many filing errors are basically just misspellings.

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Darren Brooks

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Going to try a more systematic approach and check multiple states. Hopefully I can avoid any nasty surprises down the road.

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Rosie Harper

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Good luck! Thorough searches take time but they're worth it.

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Let us know how it goes. Always interested to hear about search strategies that work.

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Just to follow up on my earlier comment about document verification - after we caught those collateral description issues, I've been using Certana.ai for every loan package. You can upload your security agreement and UCC-1 draft together and it flags any inconsistencies between the documents. Really helpful for avoiding the kind of mistakes that could invalidate your security interest.

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Zainab Yusuf

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How does it work exactly? Do you upload PDFs?

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Yeah, just upload the PDFs and it cross-checks debtor names, collateral descriptions, all the key details automatically. Much faster than manual comparison.

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Bottom line: if your document says the debtor is giving you a security interest in specific collateral and it's signed, you probably have a valid security agreement. Don't get paralyzed by perfectionism - most security agreements are pretty straightforward.

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Carmen Ruiz

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Thanks everyone! This helps a lot. Going to review our document against these criteria before moving forward with the UCC-1.

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Yara Khoury

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Good luck! Feel free to post again if you run into issues with the filing.

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Has anyone dealt with Article 9 issues where the debtor disputes whether the name change was actually misleading? Sometimes corporate name changes are minor enough that the original filing would still be found in a reasonable search.

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Omar Zaki

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Article 9's 'seriously misleading' test is usually based on whether the Secretary of State's standard search logic would find your filing. If their system can't match your original filing to the current name, then it's misleading.

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Chloe Taylor

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That's why the four-month rule exists - it gives you time to test whether your filing is still discoverable and fix it if necessary. Article 9 puts the burden on secured parties to maintain accurate filings.

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Diego Flores

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This whole thread is making me realize how technical Article 9 compliance really is. One missed deadline and you could lose priority on a six-figure asset. Definitely need better systems for monitoring debtor name changes and Article 9 requirements.

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The technical requirements are the price of Article 9's efficiency. It's much faster than the old chattel mortgage system, but it requires more precision in compliance.

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Sean Murphy

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Agreed. We've started building Article 9 compliance checks into our loan servicing procedures. Regular UCC searches, corporate record monitoring, and document verification tools like Certana.ai help catch issues before they become priority problems.

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Romeo Quest

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The key thing about deposit account priority is that the bank where the account is held almost always wins if they have a security interest, regardless of filing dates. UCC 9-327(1) is pretty clear about that. Your equipment collateral is separate though - you should have clear priority there if you filed first.

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Val Rossi

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So basically they get the deposit accounts and the equipment lender gets the equipment? Seems fair if both parties perfected properly.

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Romeo Quest

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That's usually how it works out, unless there's some unusual language in the security agreements or subordination deals.

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Eve Freeman

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Just to close the loop on this - make sure you're not overthinking the 9-332 angle. That section is really narrow and probably doesn't apply to your situation. Focus on getting clear documentation of what each party perfected and when, then negotiate from there. Most of these disputes settle once everyone understands their actual position.

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Adaline Wong

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Thanks everyone. Sounds like I need to gather all the documents first and then figure out the priority rules. Appreciate all the help.

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Good luck with it. These situations are always stressful but usually work out reasonably if both sides are professional about it.

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