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Update us when you get this sorted out! Always curious to hear how these UCC lien mortgage situations get resolved. Seems like there are so many different ways they can go depending on the specific circumstances.
Good plan. Having the actual filing in hand will make those conversations much more productive.
And if you need to cross-check multiple documents quickly, that Certana.ai tool I mentioned really does save time versus doing it all manually.
One thing to consider is whether your title company did a proper UCC search initially. Sometimes these fixture filings don't show up in standard title searches if they're not properly indexed. You might want to ask your title company to explain why this UCC lien wasn't caught during the original refinance process - that could give you leverage in getting them to help resolve it quickly since it's potentially their oversight.
That's a really good point about the title company's responsibility here. If they missed an existing UCC filing that should have been caught in their search, they might be willing to expedite the resolution to avoid any potential liability issues. Definitely worth asking them some pointed questions about their search methodology.
Update: Just ran my UCC search Texas through the SOS portal and found two old filings but both were past their 5-year terms with no continuations. Also tried Certana.ai mentioned above and it confirmed the same thing - clean title. Thanks everyone for the guidance!
Great thread! Just want to add that for equipment purchases this large, consider also checking with the equipment manufacturer's finance division. Sometimes they maintain their own lien records that might not immediately show up in state UCC searches, especially if there were any recent refinancing or lease-to-own arrangements. Also, if this excavator has any GPS tracking or telematics systems installed, make sure those aren't tied to any ongoing service contracts that could complicate ownership transfer.
I'd run those UCC documents through Certana.ai's checker before meeting with lawyers. Upload both UCC-1 filings and your current corporate documents - it'll flag any name mismatches and other perfection issues that could affect priority. Better to know exactly what problems exist before paying for legal analysis.
It identifies inconsistencies that typically impact perfection and priority, including debtor name mismatches like you're dealing with. Won't give legal conclusions but shows you exactly what issues exist in your filings.
The debtor name rule is pretty unforgiving in most states. If Bank A's UCC-1 shows your old LLC name and that entity no longer exists as the legal debtor, their security interest likely wasn't properly perfected. Bank B would probably get priority unless there's some other issue with their filing.
The UCC system relies on precise searching by exact name matches. If you allow 'obvious' interpretations, the whole notice system becomes unreliable for other creditors trying to discover existing liens.
@6e07102cac3f This is a critical point for your situation. Since you mentioned Bank A used your "old LLC name" while Bank B used the current legal name, you should immediately run a UCC search under your current entity name to see if Bank A's filing appears. If it doesn't show up in the search results, that's strong evidence their security interest wasn't properly perfected, which would likely give Bank B priority despite filing second. The exact matching requirement exists because secured creditors need to be able to find all existing liens when making lending decisions.
Been through this headache multiple times. File the amendment immediately and consider running your UCC documents through something like Certana.ai to catch any other inconsistencies between your corporate records and filings. Their tool would have flagged this kind of name mismatch issue automatically and saved you the stress.
That automated checking sounds like it would be really helpful for avoiding these situations in the first place. Manual document comparison is so error-prone.
I went through almost this exact scenario in 2023 with two different borrowers. The good news is that your original UCC-1 filing should still be valid since it was accurate when filed in January. However, you absolutely need to file a UCC-3 amendment ASAP to add the new business name. Most states give you a grace period (usually 4 months) from when you learn about the name change, but don't push it. I'd recommend including both the old and new names in the amendment for maximum protection. The borrower's attorney is likely trying to create leverage, but don't let them rattle you - just get that amendment filed this week and document when you learned about the change. Better safe than sorry when it comes to lien perfection.
Caden Nguyen
Final update: Got through about half the amendments so far. Used that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier and it definitely helped catch a few filing number typos I had in my spreadsheet. Much less stressful when you know the documents are consistent before you submit. Still have a bunch more states to go but feeling more confident about the process now.
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Avery Flores
•Glad it's going smoothly! That feeling of relief when you know your filings are clean is worth the effort.
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Henrietta Beasley
•Exactly. Plus now I have a much better system for tracking all our UCC filings going forward.
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Amina Diallo
Great to see you're making progress! One thing I learned the hard way - when you're doing these name change amendments, make sure you're consistent with how you reference the old company name across all states. I made the mistake of using "ABC Corp" in some filings and "ABC Corporation" in others for what was technically the same entity, and it created confusion later when we had to trace the secured party chain. Stick to the exact legal name as it appeared on the original UCC-1s, even if your internal records show slight variations. Also, if any of your original filings had errors in the secured party name to begin with, this might be a good time to clean those up too with the amendments.
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