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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I'm going to start with organizing all my documentation properly and then approach the acquiring bank's legal department with a formal written request. If that doesn't work within 30 days, I'll file a complaint with the state banking regulator. Really appreciate all the different perspectives on this - I had no idea there were so many potential approaches to the problem.

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Good luck! Let us know how it turns out. These kinds of situations are becoming more common with all the bank consolidation happening.

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Definitely keep us posted. This thread has been really helpful for understanding the process.

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One thing I'd add is to check if your state has a specific statute of limitations on how long UCC filings remain effective. In most states, UCC-1 filings lapse after 5 years unless a continuation statement is filed. Since your loan was from 2017 and it's now 2025, the filing might actually be expired already, which could simplify your refinancing situation. Your new lender should be able to verify this, and an expired filing typically doesn't need a formal termination. Worth checking before you go through all the hassle of tracking down the acquiring bank.

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This is excellent advice! I completely overlooked the 5-year lapse rule. @Mae Bennett, before you go through all the hassle of contacting the acquiring bank or filing regulatory complaints, definitely have your new lender run a current UCC search first. If that 2017 filing has already expired, you could potentially move forward with your refinancing immediately. Even if a continuation was filed, at least you'll know exactly what you're dealing with. It's always better to understand the current status before investing time in more complex solutions.

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This is such a crucial point that @Miguel Diaz raises! As someone new to this community but dealing with similar UCC issues, I can t'believe how many people myself (included jump) straight to the termination headache without checking if the filing is even still valid. The 5-year automatic lapse rule is designed exactly for situations like this. @Mae Bennett, definitely worth having your lender pull that current search first - could save you weeks of chasing down unresponsive banks if the filing already expired in 2022.

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Sounds like you've got a solid plan forming. Entity conversion = new UCC-1, careful debtor name verification, broad collateral description for manufacturing inventory, and continuous perfection timing. The key is executing it all flawlessly with that loan amount at stake.

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Exactly. I feel much more confident about the approach now. Thanks everyone for the guidance - this thread has been incredibly helpful.

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Glad we could help. These complex secured transactions require getting every detail right. Good luck with your filing!

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One additional consideration for your manufacturing client - if they have any equipment subject to federal regulations (like FDA equipment for medical devices or OSHA-regulated machinery), make sure your collateral description doesn't conflict with any regulatory restrictions on transfers or liens. I've seen UCC filings challenged where the collateral was subject to special federal oversight. Also, given the substantial loan amount, you might want to consider getting a UCC search done immediately before filing to see what other liens are already on record against both the old LLC and new corporation entities.

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Great point about the UCC search! I hadn't considered running searches on both entities. With a conversion happening, there could be existing liens on either the old LLC or potentially even preliminary filings against the new corporation. Running comprehensive searches before we file will help us understand the priority landscape and avoid any surprises. The regulatory equipment angle is also something I should discuss with our borrower - I know they have some specialized manufacturing equipment that might fall under OSHA regulations.

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Update: I ended up doing searches under 5 different name variations and found two existing UCC-1 filings I would have missed. One was under the company's old name before they changed it, and another was under an abbreviation. Both are still active. Thanks for all the advice - definitely saved me from a major headache!

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Did you end up walking away from the deal or were you able to get the existing liens released?

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We're working with the seller to get proper releases before closing. Much better to deal with this upfront than discover it later.

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This thread is incredibly valuable for anyone doing UCC searches! I'm relatively new to this and just wanted to add that NY also allows for wildcard searches using the asterisk (*) symbol, which can help catch variations you might not think of. For example, searching "ABC Company*" would find "ABC Company Inc", "ABC Company LLC", "ABC Company Incorporated", etc. Just be prepared for a lot of results to sort through, but it's another tool in the toolkit for comprehensive searches.

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I'm in a similar boat with an MCA UCC lien that's blocking my SBA loan application. The bank won't proceed until the lien is resolved. Did you find any specific resources for dealing with MCA companies who won't cooperate on correcting or terminating defective filings?

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I used Certana.ai's verification tool to document all the problems with my MCA company's UCC filing. Having that official report made the bank more comfortable proceeding with my loan application.

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That's a great idea. I need something official to show the bank why the MCA lien shouldn't be a concern for their lending decision.

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The name variation issue you mentioned is actually a huge red flag that could work in your favor. UCC-1 filings require the exact legal name of the debtor as registered with the state - even minor spelling differences can render the entire filing invalid. I'd strongly recommend pulling your official business registration documents and comparing them character-by-character with what the MCA company filed. If there's any discrepancy, you may have grounds to challenge the entire lien. Also, that "all assets" collateral description is problematic - UCC law requires reasonable identification of collateral, and courts have ruled that overly broad language like this can make filings unenforceable. Many MCA companies count on business owners not knowing these technical requirements. Don't let their daily payment demands pressure you into accepting a potentially invalid lien claim.

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm new to dealing with UCC filings and had no idea that even small name variations could invalidate the entire filing. The daily payment pressure has been making me feel like I have no options, but it sounds like there might be real technical defenses available. Do you know if there's a specific timeframe for challenging these types of filing errors, or can you dispute them at any point while the UCC-1 is active?

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Update us when you get this sorted out. Always helpful to hear how these PR filing issues get resolved.

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Will do. Planning to get the corporate documents this week and run everything through that document checker tool. Fingers crossed.

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Good luck! PR filings can be tricky but once you get the hang of their system it's not too bad.

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As someone who's been handling UCC filings across multiple jurisdictions for over a decade, I can't stress enough how important it is to get the debtor name exactly right in Puerto Rico. The Estado Libre Asociado system is particularly unforgiving when it comes to name variations. I'd recommend ordering a certified copy of the corporate charter directly from the PR Department of State - don't rely on what you think the name should be based on loan documents or other paperwork. Also, given that you mentioned this is equipment financing with a continuation coming up, make sure you're tracking the filing date carefully. PR's electronic system has improved but I've seen processing delays that could put you dangerously close to your deadline. Better to file early and be safe than sorry with that much collateral at stake.

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This is excellent advice, especially about ordering the certified copy directly from PR Department of State. I'm new to cross-jurisdiction filings and didn't realize how strict they could be about exact name matching. The point about filing early due to processing delays is really helpful too - I was planning to wait until closer to the deadline but sounds like that could be risky. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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