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Real estate security agreements often cover both fixtures and personal property in one document, but you need different filing strategies for each type of collateral. Don't assume one filing covers everything.

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This is the key point. The security agreement can be comprehensive but your perfection method depends on collateral classification.

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Exactly. Security agreement creates the interest, but UCC filings, fixture filings, and mortgage recordings perfect different types of collateral.

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For warehouse deals like yours, I typically see fixture filings for HVAC and electrical systems, regular UCC-1s for removable equipment, and mortgage coverage for structural improvements. The security agreement covers all of it but each needs appropriate perfection.

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Good point about using document verification tools too. I've seen too many deals fail because of small inconsistencies between security agreements and UCC filings.

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This breakdown is really helpful! I'm dealing with similar equipment classifications in my warehouse deal. Quick question - when you say "removable equipment" gets regular UCC-1s, how do you handle something like a large manufacturing press that's bolted down but could technically be moved? The removal test seems subjective sometimes.

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Quick update - I filed the new UCC-1 this morning and it was accepted within a few hours. Used the exact legal name from the Articles of Incorporation and updated collateral descriptions. Now just waiting on the search results to confirm no intervening filings. Thanks everyone for the advice, especially about the name matching requirements.

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Fingers crossed on the search results. Sounds like you handled it as well as possible under the circumstances.

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Good work getting it filed quickly. That's really the best you can do in this situation.

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Just want to add that it's worth implementing a systematic tracking process going forward to prevent this from happening again. I manage UCC filings across multiple states and found that creating a master spreadsheet with automated email alerts has been a lifesaver. Include columns for filing date, expiration date, state, debtor name, and collateral value - then set up calendar reminders at 12 months, 6 months, and 3 months before expiration. The peace of mind is worth the initial setup time, especially when you're dealing with high-value collateral like your $180k equipment.

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Thanks everyone for the help! Sounds like Ohio is definitely the right choice. Going to pull their corporate docs tomorrow and get this filed. Appreciate all the advice about double-checking that debtor name - definitely don't want to deal with a rejection.

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Good luck with the filing! Take your time with the debtor name verification and you should be fine.

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Let us know how it goes! Always good to hear success stories.

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One thing I'd add - make sure to check if the debtor has any registered office changes or amendments filed after their original incorporation. Sometimes companies move their principal place of business but don't update their registered office, which can affect which state you need to file in. Ohio's SOS website has a pretty good search function where you can look up the entity and see all their current filings. Also worth noting that Ohio charges $40 for electronic UCC-1 filings, so factor that into your costs. Good luck with your first filing!

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Great point about checking for amendments! I hadn't thought about registered office changes potentially affecting the filing location. That $40 fee for Ohio is actually pretty reasonable compared to some other states I've dealt with. Thanks for the heads up about their search function too - sounds like Ohio has their act together with their online systems.

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UPDATE: Fixed it! The issue was the period in 'Inc.' like someone mentioned earlier, plus I was using the wrong amendment type. Selected 'Amendment - Add Collateral' instead of just 'Amendment' and it went through immediately. Thanks everyone for the help - definitely learned to double-check those tiny details.

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Awesome! For future filings, that document checker I mentioned would have caught both those issues upfront. Just a thought for next time.

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Great to see a success story. Going to bookmark this thread for when I inevitably run into the same issues.

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This thread is a perfect example of why UCC filings can be so frustrating for newcomers! I'm dealing with my first UCC amendment in Delaware and now I'm worried about running into similar issues. The fact that a single period or selecting the wrong amendment type can derail everything is kind of scary. Really appreciate everyone sharing their troubleshooting tips - definitely going to do a UCC search first to verify the exact formatting before I submit anything. Also bookmarking that Certana.ai tool several people mentioned since it sounds like it could save a lot of headaches.

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One more thing - once you get this cleared up, consider working with your attorney to send cease and desist letters to anyone you suspect might be involved. Even if you can't prove who did it, sometimes a legal warning prevents future incidents.

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Definitely looking into monitoring services after this experience. Never want to be surprised by fraudulent filings again.

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The monitoring services are worth every penny. We caught two attempted fraudulent filings last year because of automatic alerts.

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This is absolutely infuriating but unfortunately becoming more common. I'd also recommend checking if your state has a UCC information request form that lets you get details about who actually submitted the filing - sometimes there are electronic signatures or IP addresses that can help identify the perpetrator. Also, when you call the Secretary of State, ask specifically about their "disputed filing" or "correction" procedures rather than just general fraud complaints - some states have faster tracks for these situations. The $180K loan delay is brutal, but most lenders will work with you if you can show active resolution efforts and a clear timeline from the SOS office.

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This is excellent advice about the UCC information request form! I didn't know states kept records of submission details like IP addresses. That could be the smoking gun we need to identify whoever filed this fraudulent lien. I'll ask specifically about their disputed filing procedures when I call tomorrow - having a faster track would be huge given our loan timeline. Really appreciate the detailed guidance from everyone here, this community has been incredibly helpful during what's been a nightmare situation.

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