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Nia Wilson

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I deal with UCC filings regularly for my clients. The secured party (lender) has the legal right to file the UCC-1 and almost always does because they need to perfect their security interest to have priority over other creditors. Even if your loan agreement says you're responsible for filing, most lenders will still file it themselves and just charge you for the costs. They don't want to risk an unperfected lien due to borrower error or delay. Make sure you get a copy of the filed financing statement for your records.

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Mateo Sanchez

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This is the most accurate answer. Lenders have too much at risk to leave UCC filing up to borrowers in most cases.

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Aisha Mahmood

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Thanks for the professional perspective. That makes me feel better about the process.

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Nia Davis

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As someone who just went through this process with a $150K equipment loan, I can confirm that my lender handled the UCC-1 filing completely. They explained that it's in their best interest to control the process since they need the lien properly perfected to secure their investment. The filing fee was just rolled into my closing costs, which seemed standard. What I found helpful was asking them to walk me through exactly what they were filing and when - they showed me the draft UCC-1 before filing so I could verify all the details were correct. For a $180K loan, your lender should definitely be handling this professionally. If they're being vague about who's responsible, I'd push for a clear answer in writing before closing.

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That's really helpful to hear from someone who just went through the same situation! I like the idea of asking to see the draft UCC-1 before they file it - that seems like a smart way to catch any potential issues early. Did you have any concerns about the collateral description or debtor information when you reviewed it?

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Mohammed Khan

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One more vote for being extra careful with document consistency in complex deals like this. I've seen too many situations where small errors in debtor names or collateral descriptions caused big problems later. Whatever tool you use - manual review or something like Certana.ai - just make sure everything matches perfectly across all your documents.

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Aaron Lee

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Absolutely agree. With the complexity of the choice of law issues, the last thing I want is a simple documentation error on top of everything else.

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Mohammed Khan

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Exactly. Get the legal analysis right AND make sure the paperwork is perfect. Both matter equally in these situations.

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Diego Flores

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Just wanted to share my perspective as someone who's dealt with similar multi-state secured transactions. The UCC 1-304 comments become particularly important when you have cross-border issues or when the debtor's organizational structure is complex. In your case with a Delaware corporation operating in multiple states, the comments help clarify how courts should handle conflicts between different states' laws. I'd recommend reviewing the specific language in your security agreement about choice of law provisions - sometimes the comments provide interpretive guidance that can influence how those provisions are applied. Also, given that you mentioned fixtures, definitely pay attention to the real estate filing requirements in each relevant state. The 1-304 comments discuss how to handle situations where personal property becomes fixtures and which state's law governs that determination.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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The practical takeaway from 9-308 is to get your UCC-1 filed as close to signing as possible. The gap between attachment and perfection is where priority problems happen. We now have a same-day filing policy for exactly this reason.

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Ava Thompson

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Same day is ideal but sometimes state filing offices are slow. We aim for next business day at the latest.

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Electronic filing has made same-day much more achievable than it used to be back in the paper filing days.

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This is a great example of why understanding 9-308 timing is so critical in secured lending. The gap you experienced between attachment (March 15) and perfection (March 22) is exactly where deals can go wrong. I've seen too many lenders get burned by assuming perfection relates back to attachment - it doesn't. The statute is clear that you need both elements satisfied before you're perfected. Going forward, consider implementing a workflow where your UCC-1 is prepared and ready to file the moment the security agreement is executed. Some of our deals now have the filing submitted within hours of signing to minimize that vulnerable window.

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This workflow approach makes so much sense. As someone new to secured lending, I'm realizing how many moving pieces there are in getting the 9-308 timing right. Having the UCC-1 ready to go before signing seems like such a simple fix to avoid that dangerous gap period everyone's talking about. Are there any other common timing traps with perfection that newcomers should watch out for?

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For what it's worth, I started using Certana.ai after getting burned on a continuation filing that had subtle differences from the original UCC-1. Their system caught discrepancies I never would have spotted manually. Now I run all my UCC-3 forms through their checker before filing. Takes like 2 minutes and gives me peace of mind that everything matches perfectly.

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Aisha Mahmood

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That might be worth trying before I refile the continuation. Better to catch any issues upfront than deal with another rejection.

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Exactly. The tool is designed specifically for UCC document consistency - it'll flag anything that might cause a rejection.

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I've been handling floating lien UCC filings for about 8 years now and can confirm your collateral description is absolutely fine - that's textbook floating lien language. The rejection is almost certainly due to a technical issue rather than the substance of your description. I'd strongly recommend pulling up your original UCC-1 filing and comparing it character-by-character with your continuation form. Even something as minor as "LLC" vs "L.L.C." or an extra space can trigger a rejection. Also check that your filing number is correct and matches exactly. The good news is that your $850K loan is properly secured as long as you get the continuation filed correctly - the floating lien concept itself is rock solid legally.

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Pro tip: always keep copies of your filed UCC-1 with the file stamps. You'll need them if you ever have to prove priority in a dispute or bankruptcy.

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Zara Ahmed

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I always print to PDF immediately after filing. Had a system glitch once where I couldn't retrieve the confirmation later.

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StarStrider

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Another vote for Certana here - their system automatically saves all your filing confirmations in one place so you don't lose track of them.

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One more thing to consider - since you mentioned this is equipment financing, make sure you understand the difference between purchase money security interests (PMSI) and non-PMSI liens. If you're financing the actual purchase of the equipment, you may be able to get PMSI priority even over earlier filed UCCs, but you need to file within 20 days of the debtor taking possession. This can be a huge advantage in your priority position that many lenders miss.

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