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Sofia Perez

Need advice on FAFSA borrower defense application - overwhelmed by requirements

I'm about to submit a borrower defense application for this predatory trade school I attended for about 3 months before dropping out. Has anyone successfully completed one of these? The instructions from the studentaid.gov site are seriously overwhelming me. I've printed everything out but there are so many sections and evidence requirements that I'm terrified I'll miss something critical and my case will get rejected. The school promised 95% job placement rates and starting salaries of $58,000+ but most graduates I know are either unemployed or making way less. I took out about $14,500 in federal loans for just those few months before I realized it was a scam. The default rates they advertised vs actual were completely different too. Specifically, I'm confused about what documentation counts as "sufficient evidence" for the misrepresentation claims section. Does anyone know if emails from admissions count? Or do I need more official materials like their brochures and website screenshots?

I successfully got a borrower defense discharge last year for a similar situation. Here's what helped me: 1. Be extremely specific about the misrepresentations. Don't just say "they lied about job placement" - provide the exact statements, when/where they were made, and why they were false. 2. Documentation is critical - screenshots of their website claims, brochures, emails from admissions, and any written materials with false claims. Emails absolutely count! 3. Organize by category of misrepresentation (job placement, earnings, accreditation, transferability of credits, etc) 4. Include statements from other students if possible 5. The timeline matters - be very clear about when each misrepresentation occurred and how it influenced your decision The Department of Education is processing these much faster now than they used to. Mine took about 7 months for approval. Feel free to ask if you have specific questions about any section!

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Sofia Perez

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This is SO helpful, thank you! Did you submit your application online or through the mail? I'm worried about the online system timing out while I'm uploading all my evidence. Also, did you include anything about instructor qualifications? They claimed all instructors had 10+ years of industry experience, but I later found out my main instructor had only worked in the field for 2 years.

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i did mine last spetember and its still "in review" lmao good luck getting it procesed anytime this YEAR 🙄

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Sofia Perez

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Oh no, that's discouraging. Have you tried calling FSA to check on the status? I've heard some people get faster responses if they follow up regularly.

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called 3 times and got disconnected every time after waiting like an hour. gave up tbh

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Ava Johnson

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I process financial aid at a community college, and I've helped several students with borrower defense applications. The most successful applications I've seen have these things in common: 1. They focus on provable, factual misrepresentations (not subjective things like "the education was poor quality") 2. They include very specific employment statistics that the school falsely advertised 3. They provide documentation of enrollment costs being misrepresented 4. They demonstrate how credits weren't transferable despite claims they would be The key is providing evidence that meets the legal standard of misrepresentation. General disappointment with the school isn't enough - you need to show specific false claims that influenced your enrollment decision. Make copies of EVERYTHING before submitting. The FSA has been known to lose documents.

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Miguel Diaz

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Totally agree with this! When I was scammed by National Technical Institute they told me their program was "nationally accredited" but conveniently left out that it wasn't REGIONALLY accredited which meant credits wouldn't transfer to any real college. That point alone was enough to get my loans discharged.

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Zainab Ahmed

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Sofia Perez

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Thanks for the tip! I'll probably need this after I submit since it sounds like the wait times can be crazy. I'm paranoid about my application getting lost in their system.

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Connor Byrne

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WARNING FROM SOMEONE WHO MESSED UP: Don't do what I did - I submitted my borrower defense without making copies of EVERYTHING and then when they asked for additional documentation 8 months later, I couldn't provide it all and got denied. Print screenshots of everything, save emails as PDFs, take pictures of physical materials. Document EVERYTHING!!!!!

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Yara Abboud

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This happened to my roommate too! He submitted his borrower defense application without keeping copies, and when they requested more information, he couldn't reproduce all the evidence. His discharge got denied, and now he's stuck with $32,000 in loans for a worthless "game design" program that employers don't even recognize.

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Miguel Diaz

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just wondering has anyone gotten a partial discharge vs full? im nervous they'll only forgive like half my loans even tho the whole program was fraudulent

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The current administration has been doing mostly full discharges if you can prove misrepresentation. Partial discharges were more common under the previous rules. Make sure you explicitly request full discharge in your application and explain why the entire program's value was compromised by the misrepresentations.

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Yara Abboud

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One thing to consider - if you're still within the 3-year timeframe from when you discovered the misrepresentation (not from when you attended!), make sure to note that in your application. The statute of limitations can be a factor in some cases. Also, include any communication you had with school officials where you questioned their claims or asked for verification. This helps establish that you did due diligence before filing for borrower defense.

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Sofia Perez

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Oh that's important - I just discovered some of the misrepresentations about job placement rates last year when I tried to get career help and realized their "career services" department was just one person who basically told graduates to check Indeed. I'll make sure to include that timeline in my application!

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yall keep saying evidence but what if the school shut down and their website is gone? i cant find my enrollment papers eithre... am i just screwed?

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Ava Johnson

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For closed schools, the Department of Education does have some records they can access internally. You should mention in your application that the school has closed and you have limited documentation as a result. If you have any communications with other students, former employees, or even your own notes from the time of enrollment, include those. You can also check archive.org's Wayback Machine to see if they have archived versions of the school's website with the false claims.

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PixelPioneer

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I submitted mine about 8 months ago and just got approved last week! Full discharge of $23K in loans plus a refund of payments I'd already made. Here's a tip nobody told me: if you mention accreditation misrepresentation specifically, it seems to get processed faster based on what I've heard from others in my situation. My school claimed they were "in the process" of getting programmatic accreditation but they had actually been denied twice already when they told me that.

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Sofia Perez

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Congratulations! That's really encouraging. I'll definitely include the accreditation issues in my case too. They claimed to be "nationally recognized" but when I tried to transfer, no other schools would accept the credits because they only had national accreditation, not regional.

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