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FAFSA family size vs. tax dependents - counting graduate student in household?

I'm losing my mind trying to figure out the family size question on the FAFSA for 2025-2026! I understand it's asking if our family size is different from who we claimed on our 2023 taxes, but I'm confused about how to count my kids. We have one child who's finishing undergrad this May and might start grad school in the fall. Our other child will still be in college. The FAFSA says family size includes parents, student, and others we provide more than 50% support for between July 2025-June 2026, even if they live elsewhere for college. But I'm confused - can we still count our soon-to-be grad student in our family size? They might get funding or assistantships, but we'll definitely still be helping financially. Would really appreciate advice from anyone who's been through this!

man I never even thought about this when filling out FAFSA lol. just put down whoever is living at home and helping pay bills. financial aid office never questioned me about it 🤷‍♂️

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That's how people end up getting selected for verification and having their aid delayed or adjusted. The FSA has been doing more verification checks on household size recently. Better to do it right the first time!

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I'm currently a grad student whose parents include me in their household size for my younger sibling's FAFSA. I have a research assistantship that covers tuition and gives me a small stipend, but my parents still help with rent, car insurance, phone bill, and emergency expenses. We calculated it out and their contribution is still more than 50% of my total support when you include everything. The key is being thorough - don't just look at tuition coverage, but all living expenses too. My parents keep receipts for Venmo transfers, insurance payments, etc. just in case we get selected for verification. One tip: if your grad student doesn't know their funding situation yet, you might want to estimate conservatively and be prepared to update if needed. Some schools allow FAFSA corrections if circumstances change significantly.

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Can't access NJ TAG after FAFSA completion - negative SAI (-1500) first-time applicant

I finally submitted my FAFSA last week and got my SAI score of -1500, which says I might qualify for state aid. I'm trying to apply for the New Jersey TAG (Tuition Aid Grant) but I'm completely lost. I created a HESAA account but whenever I log in, it just keeps redirecting me to the main dashboard with no obvious way to apply for TAG. Does anyone know what specific steps I need to take on the HESAA website to actually submit a TAG application? Also, besides the Pell Grant that FAFSA mentioned, are there any other NJ-specific grants I should be applying for with my negative SAI score? This is my first time applying to college (starting Fall 2025) and I'm completely overwhelmed by all these different aid programs. My parents aren't familiar with the college process either so I'm trying to figure everything out myself.

Hey! I'm also a first-time college applicant dealing with the same FAFSA/TAG confusion. Reading through all these responses has been super helpful - I had no idea that TAG was automatic through FAFSA submission! I submitted my FAFSA about 2 weeks ago and got an SAI of -2100, so I'm in a similar boat. I've been checking my HESAA account obsessively but it sounds like I need to be more patient and focus on monitoring my email instead. Quick question for anyone who's been through this - when you get that initial email from HESAA about TAG eligibility, does it give you a specific dollar amount, or is it just a general "you qualify" notification? I'm trying to figure out how much I can expect to help with my college planning. Thanks for starting this thread - it's nice to know I'm not the only one feeling overwhelmed by all these different aid programs!

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Hey Amina! I just went through this exact same process last year and wanted to share what worked for me. With your SAI of -1500, you're definitely in great shape for aid! One thing I learned the hard way - HESAA uses a different email system than most places. Make sure you whitelist their domain (@hesaa.org) in your email settings so their messages don't get filtered out. I almost missed my verification request because my email provider was treating their automated messages as spam. Also, when you do get that initial TAG notification email (usually around 3-4 weeks after FAFSA submission), it will include a link to complete your HESAA profile if you haven't already. Sometimes there are additional questions about your high school graduation year, residency status, etc. that need to be completed before they can finalize your award. Since you're starting Fall 2025, you have plenty of time, but I'd recommend setting up a simple spreadsheet to track all your aid applications and their deadlines. Between federal aid, state aid, and individual school scholarships, it gets overwhelming fast! You're doing great by getting your FAFSA done early - that negative SAI is going to open up a lot of opportunities for you. Good luck!

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Thank you so much Carmen! This is incredibly helpful advice - I definitely wouldn't have thought about whitelisting the HESAA email domain. I'll do that right now to make sure I don't miss anything important. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant too. I've been trying to keep track of everything in my head but you're right that it's getting overwhelming fast. I'll set one up this weekend to track all the different aid programs and their timelines. It's really reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this process successfully. Did you end up needing to submit any additional verification documents beyond what FAFSA required, or was your process pretty straightforward once you got that initial TAG notification? Thanks again for taking the time to share your experience - it really helps to know what to expect!

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Carmen, this is such great advice! I just whitelisted the @hesaa.org domain - that's exactly the kind of tip I wouldn't have known to do. I'm definitely going to create that spreadsheet this weekend too. One follow-up question - when you completed your HESAA profile after getting that notification email, do you remember if there were any tricky questions or documents you needed to have ready? I want to make sure I'm prepared when that email comes so I can respond quickly. Also, did your TAG award amount end up being what you expected based on your SAI, or were there any surprises (good or bad) in the final amount? Thanks again for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to get insights from someone who actually made it through this process successfully!

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Do I need to report parent's IRA distributions on 2024-25 TAP and FAFSA?

My dad just retired from his job at IBM last month, and now he's starting to receive distributions from his IRA. I'm filling out my 2024-25 FAFSA and New York TAP applications right now and I'm confused about whether I need to report these IRA distributions. The FAFSA instructions mention retirement accounts but it's not clear about distributions. For the TAP application specifically, do I need to include these IRA distributions as part of my parent's income? The monthly amount is around $2,800 and he's using it as regular income now. I don't want to mess up my financial aid by reporting incorrectly. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! To summarize what I learned: 1. IRA distributions DO count as income for both FAFSA and TAP purposes 2. Both 2024-25 FAFSA and TAP use 2022 tax information 3. Since my dad wasn't receiving distributions in 2022, I don't need to report them on this year's applications 4. I'll need to report them next year (2025-26 applications) since he started receiving them in 2023 This community is amazing - I was really stressing about this!

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Glad we could help clarify! Just one more tip - when you DO report the distributions next year, make sure to distinguish between the taxable and non-taxable portions. They're treated slightly differently in the formula, and it can affect your SAI calculation. You can find this breakdown on your father's tax forms (lines 4a and 4b on Form 1040).

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Just wanted to add something that might help others - if your parent is doing Roth IRA distributions, the treatment can be different! With traditional IRAs, the entire distribution is usually taxable income that gets reported. But with Roth IRAs, if your parent is over 59½ and the account has been open for 5+ years, the distributions might be tax-free. However, even tax-free Roth distributions still need to be reported as untaxed income on FAFSA in some cases. It's worth double-checking with your school's financial aid office if you're dealing with Roth distributions specifically, since the rules can be tricky.

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Does missing Pell Grant on school portal mean my daughter didn't qualify for FAFSA grant?

I'm reviewing my daughter's financial aid package on her college portal and I'm confused. The page only shows the Federal Direct Subsidized Loan ($3,500) and Federal Direct Unsubsidized Loan ($2,000). There's no mention of a Pell Grant anywhere. Does this mean she didn't qualify for the Pell Grant? Her SAI was around 4800, which I thought might qualify for at least some grant money. The estimated cost of attendance is $26,500 per year, and we definitely need more help than just loans. I'm wondering if maybe the Pell Grant appears somewhere else or if I'm missing something? This is our first time going through the financial aid process.

omg my daughters friend had this same issue and it turned out her fafsa had a mistake where her dad put his retirement account as a regular savings account which made them look like they had way more money than they actually did... might be worth double checking all your numbers?

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That's a good suggestion. I'm pretty sure we entered everything correctly, but I'll definitely review our application again just to be safe. Those kinds of mistakes can make a huge difference!

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That's such great news that the school is still processing grants! This is actually pretty common - many schools do process federal loans first since they're easier to calculate, then work through the Pell Grant determinations afterward. The timing can vary a lot between institutions. And definitely pursue that special circumstances appeal for your husband's job loss - those appeals can make a real difference in your daughter's aid eligibility. Keep us posted on how it turns out!

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SAI of 13841 with only $5500 federal loan offer - how to cover $19,800 tuition gap?

My daughter just received her FAFSA results and I'm totally confused about what to do next. Her SAI came back as 13841, and apparently that means she's not eligible for any grants - just a $5500 federal direct loan. The university she wants to attend costs $19,800 for tuition alone. Does this mean I need to apply for private loans to cover the remaining $14,300? Or are there other federal options I'm missing? I'm a single parent and this is my first time navigating college finances. Any guidance would be deeply appreciated because I'm feeling completely overwhelmed right now.

One other important point: if your daughter is a first-year student, the $5,500 Federal Direct loan limit breaks down as $3,500 subsidized (no interest while in school) and $2,000 unsubsidized (interest accrues immediately). Make sure you understand which type she's being offered because it makes a big difference in the long run.

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That's good to know about the two different types! The letter didn't specify which kind she's getting. I'll make sure to ask about this when we talk to the financial aid office. Thank you!

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Hi Samuel! I just went through this exact same situation with my son last year. The confusion around SAI is so common - I think they really need to explain it better! A few additional tips that helped us: 1. Ask the financial aid office about payment plans - many schools let you spread that SAI amount over monthly payments instead of paying it all upfront 2. Check if your daughter qualifies for any state grants - these aren't always automatically included in the initial FAFSA results 3. See if the school has emergency aid funds for single parents - many do but don't advertise them widely Also, don't feel bad about not understanding this system initially. It's incredibly complex and honestly designed in a way that's not user-friendly at all. You're doing great by asking questions and advocating for your daughter!

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