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Will part-time work destroy my brother's ESD benefits? Need advice for child support situation

My brother is literally living on my couch right now because child support is taking about 60% of his unemployment check and he can't afford even a studio apartment. He's been looking for a full-time position for months but nothing comes close to his previous salary ($85k in tech support). He's thinking about picking up a part-time retail job (maybe 15-20 hrs/week) to boost his income, but we're worried ESD will just cut his benefits completely, making him worse off. Does anyone know how part-time work affects unemployment in WA when there's child support involved? How much can he earn before they start reducing his weekly benefit amount? I really need him to get off my couch but don't want him ending up worse financially.

Cedric Chung

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Your brother can definitely work part-time while collecting unemployment! It's called partial unemployment. He'll need to report his gross earnings each week when filing his weekly claim. Here's how it works: - He can earn up to 1/3 of his weekly benefit amount with no reduction - After that, his benefits are reduced dollar for dollar - He must still be looking for full-time work and complete his 3 job search activities weekly For example, if his weekly benefit is $750, he could earn up to $250 extra with no reduction. After that, each dollar reduces his benefit by one dollar. So if he earned $350 in a week, his benefit would be reduced by $100. Make sure he reports his earnings accurately in the week he EARNS them (not when paid) to avoid overpayment issues later.

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Thank you so much! I'll tell him right away. So basically as long as he keeps it under that 1/3 threshold, it's pure extra income that won't mess with his claim? And child support would only take their percentage from his actual unemployment payment, right, not from the part-time job? (sorry if these are dumb questions, just trying to help him figure this out

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Talia Klein

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child suprt is usually a % of ALL income not just unemploumet so they will problaby take same % from both checks, my cousin went thru this and ended up worse so be carful

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Oh crap, that's what we're afraid of. So they'll just take the same percentage from whatever he earns at the part-time job too? This whole system feels like a trap sometimes.

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I WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT HELL!!!! The system is designed to KEEP YOU POOR!!!! I had 65% garnishment for back child support and when I got a part-time job, they took the same percentage from BOTH sources of income! And then ESD reduced my benefits dollar for dollar after the first 1/3 of my WBA. Total nightmare!!!! I ended up LOSING money by working!!! The whole system is RIGGED against fathers trying to get back on their feet! Your brother needs to call ESD and get a definitive answer for HIS specific situation because every case is different. Good luck getting through to anyone though - I spent 6 WEEKS trying to talk to a human!!!

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PaulineW

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I feel your pain but it's not just fathers who struggle with child support while unemployed. I'm a mom with custody and still had my unemployment garnished for an old student loan. The system makes it nearly impossible to get ahead.

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I had similar issues last year when I tried working part-time during unemployment. The key is understanding exactly how your brother's child support order is calculated. Some orders are fixed amounts, others are percentages. My suggestion: He should check his child support order carefully (or call DSHS Division of Child Support at 800-442-KIDS) to understand exactly how additional income will affect his obligation. And yes, ESD will reduce his benefits after he earns more than 1/3 of his weekly benefit amount - but sometimes having control over your schedule with part-time work is worth a slight reduction. Plus it looks good on his resume to show he's working while looking for something better in his field.

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Thank you! I'll have him look at his child support paperwork tonight. The DSHS number is super helpful - he's been avoiding calling them because he's worried about stirring up trouble, but having accurate information is probably better than guessing.

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Chris Elmeda

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Does this actually work?!?! I've literally called ESD 87 TIMES in one day and never got through!!!!!

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Chris Elmeda

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It worked for me back in January when I had questions about working part-time while on unemployment. Saved me tons of frustration. I was skeptical too, but after weeks of trying to get through on my own, I was desperate.

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Jean Claude

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Your brother should also check if he qualifies for the earnings disregard for dependents. If his child support is for his kids (and not from a previous relationship), he might qualify to earn more before his benefits start getting reduced. This is something not many people know about. Also, while child support is typically calculated as a percentage of all income, there might be modifications available if he can demonstrate financial hardship. This would require going back to court, but it might be worth looking into given his situation. Definitely have him document all his job search activities thoroughly. With his tech support background, he should focus his 3 weekly job search activities on positions in his field, even while working part-time retail. That keeps him eligible for his full benefit amount while he's between career-level jobs.

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I had no idea about the earnings disregard for dependents! His kids are from his marriage (now divorced obviously), so that might apply. I'll tell him to specifically ask about that when he calls ESD. And good tip about focusing his job search activities on tech positions - he's been applying to everything out of desperation.

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Talia Klein

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tell him check out warehouses, my buddy was in tech and couldnt find anything so he did amazon warehouse for like 6 months, decent pay and they hire everyone

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That's actually a good idea! Amazon has a fulfillment center not too far from us. I'll suggest it - might be better than retail, and maybe more hours available too.

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Cedric Chung

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One more thing - when your brother reports his part-time earnings to ESD, he needs to report GROSS earnings (before any deductions), not net pay. I've seen people get hit with overpayment notices because they reported the wrong amount. Also, your brother might benefit from connecting with WorkSource. They can help with job searches in his field and sometimes have special programs for people transitioning between careers. With his tech background, they might be able to connect him with short-term contract work that pays better than retail while he searches for a permanent position.

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Thanks for the gross vs. net clarification! That would have been exactly the kind of mistake he might make. And I didn't think about WorkSource for tech contracts - he's been focused on permanent roles but a contract might be perfect right now. Anything to get him off my couch (and I do love him, but my 1-bedroom apartment isn't meant for two adults!

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