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Andre Moreau

Will Washington ESD know if I drive for Uber while on unemployment benefits?

I've been collecting unemployment for about 6 weeks now and things are getting tight financially. I'm thinking about doing some Uber driving on weekends to make extra money but I'm worried about how this affects my Washington ESD benefits. Do I have to report this income? Will they automatically know if I start driving for Uber? I don't want to mess up my claim but I really need the extra cash.

Yes, you absolutely have to report ALL income when you file your weekly claims, including any money from Uber driving. Washington ESD can cross-reference your SSN with tax records and they will find out eventually. It's better to be upfront about it than risk an overpayment notice later.

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Thanks for the heads up. Do you know how much I can earn before it affects my weekly benefit amount?

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In Washington, you can earn up to 1.5 times your weekly benefit amount before they start reducing your payment. So if your weekly benefit is $400, you could earn up to $600 and still get some unemployment. Anything over that and you get zero for that week.

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I tried driving for DoorDash while on unemployment last year and didn't report it at first because I thought they wouldn't know. Big mistake! Got hit with a $2,800 overpayment notice 8 months later. The stress wasn't worth it.

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Oh wow, that's exactly what I was worried about. How did they find out?

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They match up your SSN with 1099 forms that get filed. DoorDash reported my earnings to the IRS and Washington ESD eventually caught it during their quarterly wage matching.

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Just be honest about it when you file your weekly claims. I've been doing Instacart on the side and as long as you report every penny you earn, you'll be fine. The worst thing you can do is try to hide income - that's considered fraud.

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Good to know someone else is doing gig work. How do you track all the earnings?

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I keep a spreadsheet with dates and amounts. Also screenshot my earnings in the app each week before filing my claim. Makes it easier when tax time comes around too.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask questions about this, I found this service called Claimyr that helps you actually reach an agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ and the website is claimyr.com. Saved me hours of being on hold when I had questions about reporting income.

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Interesting, I'll check that out. I've been trying to call for weeks with no luck.

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Never heard of this but anything is better than calling Washington ESD directly. Their phone system is a nightmare.

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Wait, so if I make too much from Uber in one week I lose my entire unemployment payment for that week? That seems harsh. What if I just work less hours to stay under the limit?

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That's exactly what most people do. You can control your hours with gig work so many folks work just enough to supplement their unemployment without losing the whole benefit.

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Makes sense. Better to have steady income plus some gig money than to risk losing everything by working too much.

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The whole system is ridiculous. Why should I have to choose between making money and keeping my benefits? I paid into unemployment insurance for years!

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I get the frustration but the rules are there to prevent abuse. If people could work full time and still collect full unemployment, the system would go broke.

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I guess that makes sense but it still feels punitive when you're just trying to survive.

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Pro tip: make sure you understand the difference between gross and net income when reporting. Washington ESD wants your gross earnings before taxes and expenses, not what you actually take home.

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So if I earn $200 driving Uber but spent $30 on gas, I report the full $200?

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Exactly. Report the $200. You can deduct business expenses on your tax return but not on your unemployment claim.

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I've been doing Uber Eats for 3 months while on unemployment and no issues so far. Just report everything honestly and you'll be fine. The extra money really helps even if it reduces your benefit amount slightly.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone actually doing it. Do you work specific days to maximize earnings?

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Yeah I usually work Friday and Saturday nights when demand is highest. Can make $150-200 in about 6-8 hours those nights.

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Don't forget you still have to meet your job search requirements even if you're doing gig work. Washington ESD requires 3 job contacts per week and driving for Uber doesn't count as job searching.

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Good point, I almost forgot about that requirement. I've been applying to regular jobs but the gig work takes up some of my time.

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Yeah you have to balance it. The gig work can't interfere with your availability for full-time employment either.

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Question - when you report Uber income, do you report it for the week you earned it or the week you got paid? Sometimes there's a delay between when I drive and when the money hits my account.

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Report it for the week you actually performed the work, not when you received payment. So if you drove on Tuesday, report it for that week even if you don't get paid until the following week.

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That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!

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I tried using that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and it actually worked! Got through to a Washington ESD agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours. They explained exactly how to report my freelance income.

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That's awesome! I'm definitely going to try it. Did they charge a lot for the service?

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The main thing is it actually works. Way better than the usual routine of calling 50 times and getting hung up on.

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Just want to add that if you do get an overpayment notice later, don't panic. You can appeal it if you think it's wrong, but it's much easier to just report everything correctly from the start.

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How long do appeals usually take? I want to avoid that whole process if possible.

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Appeals can take 6-8 weeks minimum, sometimes longer. Definitely easier to be accurate upfront.

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Been there done that with the gig work while on unemployment. The key is tracking everything meticulously. I use a simple notes app on my phone to record every trip and earning immediately.

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That's a good system. I tend to forget details if I don't write them down right away.

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Exactly! And it makes filing your weekly claims so much easier when you have accurate records.

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One more thing - make sure Uber driving doesn't interfere with your availability for other work. If you're only available certain hours due to your Uber schedule, that could affect your claim.

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I hadn't thought about that. So I need to make sure I'm still available for regular job interviews and stuff?

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Right, you have to remain available for suitable full-time work. Gig work should be supplemental, not your main focus.

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honestly the whole reporting thing is confusing af. like what if i make $50 one week and $200 the next week? do i have to report both separately?

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Yes, you report exactly what you earned each specific week when you file your weekly claim. So $50 one week, $200 the next week.

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ok thanks that makes sense i guess

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The Claimyr thing actually sounds legit. I'm so tired of never being able to reach anyone at Washington ESD. Might be worth trying just to get some straight answers about reporting requirements.

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It really does work. I was skeptical at first but desperate times call for desperate measures. At least with Claimyr you can actually talk to a human.

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Yeah exactly, the current system is completely broken for actually getting help.

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Bottom line: report everything, keep good records, and don't try to game the system. It's not worth the risk of fraud charges or huge overpayment bills later.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much more confident about doing this the right way now.

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You got this! Just be honest and thorough with your reporting and you'll be fine.

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Also remember that even if your unemployment gets reduced due to earnings, you're probably still coming out ahead financially. Some money is better than no money.

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True, and at least I'll be doing something productive while job searching instead of just sitting around.

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Exactly the right attitude! Plus gig work can sometimes lead to other opportunities.

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Last thought - if you do well with Uber and start making significant money, just remember you might reach a point where it makes more sense to focus on that full-time rather than continuing unemployment. Good problem to have though!

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Haha yeah that would be a nice problem! For now I'm just hoping to make ends meet until I find something permanent.

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That's the smart approach. Use it as a bridge while you continue looking for regular employment.

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Just wanted to add that you should also keep track of your vehicle expenses like gas, maintenance, and mileage when doing Uber. While you can't deduct these from your unemployment reporting (you still report gross earnings), you'll need them for tax purposes at the end of the year. I use a mileage tracking app that automatically logs my trips which makes tax season much easier. Good luck with the gig work!

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That's really helpful advice about tracking expenses! I hadn't even thought about the tax implications yet. Which mileage tracking app do you recommend? I want to make sure I'm prepared for everything that comes with doing gig work while on unemployment.

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