Will ESD approve unemployment if I quit? Need to know what qualifies as 'good cause'
I've been at my current workplace for 4 years and things have gotten really bad lately. My boss has started scheduling me for 60+ hour weeks without overtime pay, claiming I'm 'exempt' (I'm definitely not - I'm an hourly retail manager). When I brought up labor laws, he threatened to cut my hours to nothing if I 'caused problems.' I'm at my breaking point and thinking about quitting, but I'm worried about paying bills while job hunting. I've heard ESD sometimes approves unemployment if you quit for 'good cause' but I'm not clear what qualifies. Can anyone explain what situations might be considered valid reasons to quit and still get unemployment? I have documentation of the scheduling issues and text messages with the threats. Would these help my case if I file?
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
Yes, you can potentially qualify for unemployment if you quit with 'good cause.' In Washington, this includes: 1) Significant pay reduction, 2) Substantial change in work hours/conditions, 3) Safety hazards, 4) Illegal activities by employer, 5) Health reasons with medical documentation, or 6) Domestic violence situations. Your situation with unpaid overtime and retaliation for raising legal concerns could qualify under several of these. KEEP ALL DOCUMENTATION including texts, emails, schedules, and pay stubs showing hours vs. compensation.
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Giovanni Colombo
•Thank you for this! So wage theft (not paying overtime) could count as 'good cause'? The schedule changes have been brutal too - sometimes I get less than 8 hours between shifts and they refuse to adjust it.
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StarStrider
my cousin quit bcuz her boss was doing the same thing!!! making her work extra hours w/o pay and she got approved but took like 2 months cuz they had to investigate. save EVERYTHING and take pics of ur schedules!!! ur boss sounds like a jerk
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Dylan Campbell
•Not everyone gets approved tho. My boyfriend quit his job last year because his boss was a total jerk and ESD denied him right away. Said being unhappy with management wasn't good enough reason to quit.
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Sofia Torres
You need to file a wage claim with L&I first!! I went through this exact situation last year and ESD initially denied my claim because I hadn't reported the wage theft to Labor & Industries. Once I filed with L&I and got a case number, I was able to appeal my ESD denial and eventually got approved. The wage claim documentation actually helped prove my "good cause" for quitting. Don't quit without starting the L&I process - it makes a huge difference in how ESD views your claim!
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Giovanni Colombo
•Thank you for this advice! I didn't even think about L&I. I'll look into filing a wage claim right away. Did you have any other documentation that helped your case?
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Dmitry Sokolov
Trust me, even with good cause its IMPOSSIBLE to reach ESD once you file!!! I waited 3 months for them to decide on my claim after quitting my toxic workplace. Tried calling hundreds of times, always busy or disconnected. FINALLY used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me connected to a real person at ESD in about 25 mins! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. Seriously saved my sanity during the whole process - especially because with quit claims they ALWAYS need additional info but never tell you what's missing.
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Giovanni Colombo
•I've heard the wait times are brutal. Thanks for the tip - I'll definitely check this out if I end up filing. Did you have to do an interview with an adjudicator for your claim?
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Ava Martinez
Your situation actually seems to qualify under WAC 192-150-120, which covers "Work that violates health, safety, or morals." Working excessive hours without proper compensation violates labor laws, and the retaliation threat from your employer for raising concerns constitutes a hostile work environment. IMPORTANT: Before quitting, document EVERYTHING. Send an email to your employer specifically citing your concerns about not receiving overtime pay as required by law, and explicitly state that you feel the scheduling practices and threats constitute a hostile work environment. Their response (or lack thereof) will be critical evidence for your claim.
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Dylan Campbell
•This is crazy specific advice! Is everyone on here a lawyer or something?? lol
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Ava Martinez
•Not a lawyer, just someone who went through the same thing and spent way too many hours reading ESD regulations. The key with quitting claims is proving you tried to resolve the issue with your employer before leaving. ESD looks for evidence you gave the employer a chance to fix the problem.
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Miguel Ramos
I QUIT MY JOB LAST YEAR BECAUSE MY BOSS WAS HARASSING ME AND ESD DENIED MY CLAIM!!! Said I didn't have "substantial evidence" even though I had text messages! The system is RIGGED against workers. They make it nearly impossible to prove good cause - their default is to side with employers EVERY TIME. I appealed three times and still got denied. Don't believe anyone who tells you it's easy to get benefits if you quit. The whole system is designed to make you give up!!!
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
•I'm sorry you had that experience. It's true that quit claims face more scrutiny, but each case is different. Did you request a hearing with the Office of Administrative Hearings? That's often where cases with documentation like text messages get a fair review by a judge rather than just an ESD claims specialist.
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Miguel Ramos
•Yeah I had a hearing and the judge still denied me! Said text messages weren't enough and I should have reported it to HR first. But our company didn't even HAVE an HR department!! The whole system is broken.
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Ava Martinez
One more critical thing: if you decide to quit, make sure you continue meeting all other eligibility requirements. This means being able and available for work and conducting at least 3 documented job search activities each week. Many claimants who quit with good cause get approved on the quit issue but then get disqualified for not meeting job search requirements. You'll need to register with WorkSource and start tracking job applications immediately after quitting.
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Giovanni Colombo
•This is really helpful - I didn't realize I'd need to start job searching right away. Does attending WorkSource workshops count toward the 3 activities?
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Ava Martinez
•Yes, WorkSource workshops count as job search activities. You can also count job applications, interviews, networking events, and even updating your resume on job sites. Just make sure you're logging everything in your job search log with accurate dates, contact info, and activity descriptions.
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StarStrider
btw my friend who works at esd says they look at if u tried to fix the problem b4 quitting. like did u talk to ur boss about the overtime? did u try to fix the schedule? did u report to HR? make sure u have proof u tried to fix it first!!!
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Giovanni Colombo
•That's good to know. I've brought it up with my boss multiple times, including in emails where I specifically mentioned the overtime laws. Should probably forward those to my personal email so I have copies.
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Sofia Torres
If you do decide to quit and file, be prepared for a LONG adjudication process. Quit claims almost always go to adjudication, which means an ESD adjudicator will interview both you and your employer separately. They'll ask detailed questions about the situation and want to see your evidence. I'd recommend preparing a written timeline of events with dates and a summary of how you tried to resolve the issues before quitting. Also, be ready for your employer to potentially fight your claim and present their own version of events.
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Giovanni Colombo
•The waiting and uncertainty sounds stressful. Thanks for the heads up about preparing a timeline - that's a good idea. I'll start documenting everything more carefully.
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