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Liam McGuire

Can I qualify for EDD if I quit due to hostile work environment and verbal abuse?

My workplace has become unbearable over the last few months. My manager frequently erupts into screaming fits, threatening to fire everyone on the spot during team meetings. I've personally been yelled at and cursed out in front of coworkers, which has triggered severe anxiety. I'm literally having panic attacks before shifts now. To make things worse, HR seems to be working with management to manipulate our hours and pay - I've noticed unexplained deductions and schedule changes that weren't approved. I'm at my breaking point but can't afford to just quit without some financial safety net. Does anyone know if EDD considers this type of hostile work environment as good cause for leaving a job? Would I be eligible for unemployment benefits if I document these incidents before quitting? I've been at this company for 3 years with no prior issues until this new manager started.

You might qualify for unemployment if you can prove you had "good cause" to quit. Hostile work environment can count, but you need to document EVERYTHING and you should try to resolve the issue internally first. Otherwise, EDD might determine you quit voluntarily without good cause. Here's what I'd recommend: 1. Document every incident with dates, times, witnesses 2. File formal complaints with HR (in writing, keep copies) 3. If you have medical evidence of anxiety/stress caused by work, get documentation from your doctor 4. Try to address the issues through proper channels before quitting When you apply for benefits, be very specific about why you had no choice but to leave. EDD will likely interview both you and your employer before making a decision.

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Thank you for the detailed advice. I've started keeping a journal of incidents but haven't formally complained to HR yet because they seem to be part of the problem. I'll definitely get something in writing though. Do you know if text messages or emails about these incidents would count as documentation? And should I mention the pay manipulation separately or is that part of the same hostile environment claim?

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yea u can get ui if u quit cuz of that but its HARD. they denied me first time even tho my boss was literally threatening me. had to appeal and wait like 2 months b4 getting paid. start looking for new job now tbh

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same here! got denied initially even with documentation. the whole "good cause" thing is super subjective depending on which edd person reviews your case

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I successfully got unemployment after quitting a toxic workplace, but it wasn't easy. The key is demonstrating that you tried to resolve the issues before quitting. In California, you need to show you've exhausted all reasonable alternatives to preserve your employment before quitting. Here's what worked for me: 1. I emailed HR and my manager's supervisor about the hostile environment (BCC'd to my personal email) 2. I requested a department transfer in writing 3. I sought medical treatment for work-related anxiety and got it documented 4. I gave my employer a final written notice stating that if the conditions didn't improve, I would have no choice but to resign When I finally quit, I had a paper trail showing I'd made every effort to save my job. During my EDD phone interview, I had specific dates and incidents ready to discuss. I was approved after the initial interview without needing to appeal. Make sure you use terms like "hostile work environment," "verbal abuse," and "workplace harassment" in your documentation and EDD application.

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this is actually rlly helpful, but what if OP doesnt have access to the manager's boss? some companies make it impossible to go up the chain

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Good point. If you can't go up the chain, document that too. "I attempted to address this with higher management but was unable to because [reason]." The key is showing you tried everything reasonable within your power. If the company structure prevents proper escalation, that actually strengthens your case with EDD.

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I had an identical situation in 2024 - manager screaming, HR colluding with them, even the pay manipulation! I quit after documenting everything for 2 months. The EDD process was frustrating because I couldn't get through on the phone for WEEKS to explain my situation after applying. I eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual EDD representative. They've got this service that helps you bypass the phone queue. You can see how it works in their demo: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km Once I finally spoke to someone, I was able to explain the hostile work environment in detail. After my eligibility interview (which they scheduled 3 weeks later), I was approved. The key was having specific examples with dates and showing how it affected my health. The agent told me that medical documentation of workplace stress/anxiety made a big difference in their decision.

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Thanks for sharing your experience, it's so similar to mine it's scary. Did you quit first and then apply for benefits, or did you apply while still employed? I'm worried about the gap between quitting and potentially getting approved.

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I quit first, then applied immediately. There was about a 5-week gap before I got my first payment (1 week waiting period + 4 weeks processing/interview). Make sure you have some savings to cover that gap. Also, you MUST continue certifying every two weeks even while waiting for a decision on your eligibility!

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EDD IS A JOKE!!! I had WORSE than what you described - physical intimidation too - and they STILL denied me saying I "voluntarily quit without good cause." The system is RIGGED against workers!!!! Had all the documentation and everything. Appealed and waited FOUR MONTHS for a hearing date while broke! The ALJ finally reversed it but the damage was done by then. Had to move back with parents at 42 years old because of EDD's BS. GOOD LUCK getting any help from these people. They automatically side with employers no matter what abuse you suffered.

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omg that's terrible! did you have a lawyer for your appeal hearing? i'm wondering if that makes a difference

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No lawyer - couldn't afford one! Just presented my evidence and told my story. The ALJ was actually fair, unlike the initial EDD reviewer who clearly didn't even read my documentation. System is designed to deny first, ask questions later.

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One important thing no one's mentioned: if your employer is manipulating your pay, that could be wage theft, which is DEFINITELY good cause to quit. Keep copies of your scheduled hours vs. what you're paid for. California takes wage theft very seriously. When you have your eligibility interview, bring up both issues separately: 1. Hostile work environment (verbal abuse, threatening behavior) 2. Wage and hour violations Either one can potentially qualify as good cause, but together they make a stronger case. During your phone interview, speak clearly and stick to facts rather than emotions. Mention specific incidents with dates. Also, consider filing a wage claim with the Labor Commissioner's Office if they're shorting your pay. That documentation can help your EDD case too.

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That's a great point. I have screenshots of my approved schedule and then the altered one that cut my hours. I also have paycheck stubs where the hours don't match what I actually worked. I'll definitely file a wage claim as well.

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wait cant u just say ur hours were cut? thats way easier to get approved for. if ur schedule keeps changing and ur getting less hours that might be partial unemployment

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This is actually a good point. If your hours have been reduced by at least 20%, you might qualify for partial unemployment benefits while still working. This could be an alternative to quitting entirely, and it's generally easier to get approved for partial benefits due to reduced hours than benefits after quitting. Worth looking into as a temporary solution.

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Thank you everyone for the incredibly helpful advice! I'm going to: 1. Document everything with specific dates/times/witnesses 2. File formal complaints with HR and request a department transfer in writing 3. See my doctor about the anxiety I'm experiencing 4. Look into both the wage claim and partial unemployment options I'll update this thread once I take these steps. Really appreciate all of your insights and personal experiences - makes me feel less alone in this situation.

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anyone else notice edd phone lines r IMPOSSIBLE lately?? i tried for 3 weeks everyday, always gets the "too many callers" message and hangs up on me

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Try early morning calling - right when they open at 8am. That's how I used to get through before I discovered Claimyr. Monday and Tuesday are usually the worst days to call.

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tried that already!! called at exactly 8:00am for 2 weeks straight. same message everytime. system is broken

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I went through something very similar last year - toxic manager, screaming matches, the whole nine yards. Here's what I learned from my experience: The documentation everyone mentioned is absolutely critical, but also consider recording incidents on your phone if it's legal in your state (California is a two-party consent state, so be careful). What really helped my case was showing a pattern of escalating behavior over time. One thing that surprised me: EDD actually cares a lot about whether you sought help for the mental health impact. I had to get a letter from my therapist stating that my work environment was causing severe anxiety and panic attacks. That medical documentation was probably the deciding factor in my approval. Also, don't underestimate the power of witness statements. If any coworkers witnessed the verbal abuse, ask them to write brief statements with dates and what they observed. Even if they're hesitant to get involved officially, having their contact info ready for EDD to potentially interview can strengthen your case. The process took about 6 weeks total for me, but I was ultimately approved without needing to appeal. Hang in there - it's definitely possible to get benefits for hostile work environment, you just need to build an airtight case first.

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I'm going through something eerily similar right now - constant yelling, threats, and what feels like deliberate schedule manipulation. Reading everyone's experiences here has been both reassuring and terrifying. A few things I want to add based on my research: 1. Keep a detailed log of how the hostile environment affects your health - sleep loss, appetite changes, panic attacks, etc. This helps establish the severity of the situation. 2. If you have a union rep or employee assistance program, document that you tried those resources too. Shows you exhausted all internal options. 3. Consider filing a complaint with Cal/OSHA if the verbal abuse creates an unsafe work environment. Having multiple agency complaints on file strengthens your EDD case. 4. Save any company policies about workplace conduct or harassment - if management is violating their own written policies, that's powerful evidence. The wage theft angle is huge too. I've been tracking discrepancies between my scheduled hours and actual pay, and it's shocking how much adds up. Definitely file that Labor Commissioner complaint alongside your EDD claim. Thank you @Liam for starting this thread - knowing others have successfully navigated this gives me hope. Please keep us updated on your progress!

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@Paolo, your addition about Cal/OSHA is brilliant - I hadn't thought of that angle! The fact that you're documenting health impacts like sleep loss and appetite changes is really smart too. I've been so focused on the verbal abuse incidents that I didn't think to track how it's affecting my physical wellbeing. The union/EAP suggestion is great for those who have access, but unfortunately my company doesn't offer either. I'm definitely going to look into filing with Cal/OSHA though - the constant yelling and threats do make it feel genuinely unsafe to be there. It's both comforting and sad that so many of us are dealing with similar situations. Hopefully sharing our experiences helps others build stronger cases. I'll definitely update once I start the formal complaint process. Good luck with your situation too - sounds like you're building a solid documentation trail!

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I'm so sorry you're going through this - the anxiety and panic attacks before shifts really hit home for me. I went through a similar situation about 8 months ago and successfully got unemployment benefits after quitting due to hostile work environment. A few things that really helped my case that I don't see mentioned yet: 1. **Email yourself daily summaries** - After each incident, email yourself a detailed account from your work email to your personal email. This creates timestamped documentation that's harder to dispute. 2. **Medical documentation is HUGE** - Get seen by a doctor specifically for work-related stress/anxiety. Having medical records that directly link your symptoms to workplace conditions was probably the most important factor in my approval. 3. **The "reasonable person" standard** - When you talk to EDD, frame everything around whether a reasonable person would continue working under these conditions. Use phrases like "no reasonable employee should have to endure..." 4. **Don't quit immediately** - I know it's tempting when you're at your breaking point, but try to hang on long enough to build your paper trail. File those HR complaints, request transfers, document everything for at least 2-3 weeks if possible. The wage manipulation adds another strong element to your case. Make sure to mention both issues separately during your EDD interview - hostile work environment AND wage theft violations. It took about 7 weeks from application to first payment, but I was approved without appeal. Having everything documented made all the difference. You've got this!

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially the part about emailing yourself daily summaries! I never thought about using work email to create that timestamped trail. The "reasonable person" standard is also a great way to frame it - I've been so caught up in documenting individual incidents that I hadn't thought about the bigger picture of whether anyone should have to work under these conditions. Your point about not quitting immediately is tough but probably necessary - I'm literally dreading going in tomorrow but I know building that paper trail properly could make or break my case. Thank you for sharing your experience and timeline, it gives me hope that this is actually doable!

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I'm a case worker who helps people navigate EDD claims, and I want to emphasize something crucial that I see missing from most of the advice here: **timing is everything**. California EDD has a specific definition of "good cause" under UI Code Section 1256, and hostile work environment cases are evaluated very strictly. Here's what I've seen work consistently: **Before you quit:** - Give your employer written notice that the conditions are intolerable and request specific remedies (transfer, manager change, etc.) - Set a reasonable deadline (usually 2-3 weeks) for them to address the issues - Keep copies of this correspondence **The magic phrase:** "I am compelled to resign due to working conditions that no reasonable person would be expected to endure." Use this exact language in your resignation letter. **During your EDD interview:** Stick to facts, not emotions. Say "My manager screamed profanities at me in front of customers on [date]" instead of "My manager was really mean." The interviewer needs concrete examples they can verify. The wage manipulation is actually your strongest case - that's constructive dismissal, which EDD treats more favorably than hostile environment claims. Lead with that issue first. One final tip: If you're denied initially (which happens about 70% of the time for hostile environment cases), **definitely appeal**. The Administrative Law Judges are much more thorough than initial reviewers and overturn about 45% of hostile environment denials. Document everything, but more importantly, follow the proper procedures. Good luck!

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This is exactly the kind of professional insight I was hoping to find here! Thank you @Malik for breaking down the specific legal requirements and procedures. That "magic phrase" about being compelled to resign is something I definitely wouldn't have thought of on my own. The statistic about 70% initial denials is sobering but knowing that appeals have a 45% success rate gives me hope that persistence pays off. I'm going to save your advice and make sure I follow those exact steps - the written notice with specific remedies and timeline is brilliant. It shows I'm being reasonable and giving them a chance to fix things before I'm "compelled" to leave. Really appreciate you sharing your professional expertise with us!

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. My manager has been creating such a toxic environment that I've started having physical symptoms - nausea before work, insomnia, constant headaches. The documentation advice everyone has shared is golden, especially @Malik's professional insights about the specific legal requirements and that "magic phrase" for resignation letters. One thing I want to add that's helped me mentally prepare: I've been keeping a "health impact journal" alongside my incident documentation. Every day I write down how the workplace stress affected me physically and emotionally - missed meals due to anxiety, inability to sleep after being yelled at, panic attacks in the parking lot before shifts. This creates a clear timeline showing how the hostile environment is damaging my wellbeing. Also, for anyone worried about the phone system being impossible to reach - I've had better luck calling the technical support line first, then asking them to transfer me to claims. Sometimes they can get you through when the main number is jammed. @Liam, your courage in posting this has probably helped more people than you realize. Workplace abuse shouldn't be something we just have to endure, and knowing there are actual legal protections (even if they're hard to navigate) gives me hope. Please keep us updated on your progress - we're all rooting for you!

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@Fatima, the health impact journal is such a smart idea! I've been so focused on documenting the actual incidents that I hadn't thought about tracking the physical symptoms. Reading about your nausea and insomnia really resonates - I've been having the same issues but didn't realize how important it would be to document them. That's definitely something I'm going to start doing immediately. The tip about calling technical support first is genius too - I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get through on the main line. It's amazing how this community is coming together to share these practical strategies. Thank you for adding to the collective knowledge here, and I hope your situation improves soon. We really are all in this together!

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I'm a former EDD claims specialist, and I want to add something critical that hasn't been fully addressed: **the employer interview**. After you file your claim, EDD will contact your employer for their side of the story. Many people get caught off guard when their employer provides a completely different version of events or even fabricates counter-claims about your performance. Here's what you need to know: **Your employer will likely claim:** - You were a problem employee - The incidents were "performance discussions" not abuse - You never complained through proper channels - You're exaggerating or lying **Protect yourself by:** - Saving any positive performance reviews, emails praising your work, or awards - Documenting that other employees witnessed the abuse (EDD may contact them) - Keeping records of any accommodations you requested for anxiety/stress - Screenshot any company communications about workplace conduct policies they violated **Red flag for EDD:** If your story has gaps or inconsistencies between your application and phone interview, they'll side with the employer. Practice telling your story chronologically with specific dates before your interview. The wage theft angle @Malik mentioned is golden because it's harder for employers to dispute concrete payroll records than subjective claims about "hostility." One more thing: if you have any workers' comp claims for stress/anxiety related to this job, mention that during your interview. It establishes a paper trail that the workplace was affecting your health. Stay strong - hostile work environment cases are winnable if you follow the right steps!

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This insider perspective from a former EDD specialist is incredibly valuable! The warning about employer counter-claims is something I definitely wasn't prepared for - I've been so focused on documenting the abuse that I hadn't thought about how my employer might spin the story. Your point about keeping positive performance reviews is brilliant - I actually have several emails from before this toxic manager started where my work was praised, plus I got employee of the month twice last year. I'm definitely going to gather all of that as evidence that this isn't about my performance. The tip about practicing my story chronologically is also crucial - I realize I've been all over the place when explaining incidents to friends and family. Having a clear, consistent timeline with specific dates will be key. Thank you for sharing this behind-the-scenes knowledge - it's exactly the kind of insider info that can make or break a case!

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I've been following this thread closely as someone who's currently in a very similar situation. The amount of detailed, practical advice here has been absolutely incredible - from @Malik's professional insights about the legal requirements to @StarGazer101's warning about employer counter-claims. What really stands out to me is how many of us are dealing with the same pattern: toxic managers, screaming fits, wage manipulation, and HR that's either useless or actively complicit. It's both validating and heartbreaking to see how common this is. I want to add one thing that's helped me: I started using a voice memo app to record myself immediately after incidents (while still fresh in my memory) describing exactly what happened, who was present, and how it made me feel. Then I transcribe these into my documentation log when I get home. This has helped me capture details I might have forgotten later and creates another timestamped record. Also, for anyone dealing with the anxiety/panic attack aspect - I found that mentioning specific physical symptoms to my doctor ("I vomit before work," "I can't sleep after being yelled at") got them to take the situation more seriously and provide stronger documentation linking my symptoms to workplace stress. @Liam, thank you for being brave enough to share your story. This thread has become an incredible resource for all of us navigating these impossible situations. The fact that so many people have successfully gotten benefits after hostile work environment quits gives me hope that the system, while flawed, can work if we follow the right steps.

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@NeonNova, the voice memo tip is absolutely genius! I wish I had thought of that earlier - you're so right that the details fade quickly, especially when you're in an emotional state after being verbally abused. I'm definitely going to start doing that immediately after any incidents. Your point about being specific with physical symptoms when talking to doctors is also really important - I've been kind of vague about my anxiety, but describing concrete symptoms like "I throw up in the parking lot before my shift" or "I haven't slept more than 3 hours a night since the screaming started" paints a much clearer picture for medical documentation. It's both comforting and disturbing how many of us are experiencing the exact same patterns of workplace abuse. Thank you for adding to this incredible wealth of practical advice - this thread has honestly been more helpful than any official resource I've found online!

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As someone who went through a nearly identical situation last year, I can't stress enough how important it is to document the retaliation that often comes after filing complaints. In my case, once I submitted formal complaints to HR about the hostile work environment, my manager suddenly started writing me up for minor infractions that had been ignored for months - things like being 2 minutes late or taking an extra 5 minutes at lunch. This retaliation actually became another strong piece of evidence for my EDD case. Make sure to document any sudden changes in how you're being treated after you start the formal complaint process. Keep copies of any disciplinary actions, sudden schedule changes, or new "performance issues" that mysteriously appear after you complain. Also, I learned that EDD considers it particularly significant if you can show that the hostile environment was affecting other employees too, not just you personally. If coworkers have also been subjected to the same manager's abuse, that helps establish a pattern of behavior rather than a "personality conflict." One practical tip: when you're ready to have that final conversation with HR before quitting, consider bringing a witness or asking to have the meeting recorded (with their permission). Having a third party present can prevent them from later claiming the meeting never happened or that you never raised these concerns. The whole process was exhausting, but I was ultimately approved for benefits. Having this thread's advice would have made it so much easier - you're all building an amazing resource here!

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@Yara, your point about documenting retaliation is so crucial and something I hadn't even considered! You're absolutely right that toxic managers often escalate their behavior once they realize you're fighting back. I can already see this happening in my situation - my manager has started nitpicking things that were never an issue before, like questioning every bathroom break or criticizing my desk organization. I'm going to start documenting these sudden "performance concerns" immediately. Your suggestion about bringing a witness to HR meetings is brilliant too - I was planning to go alone, but having someone there to corroborate what was said could be game-changing. The pattern of behavior affecting multiple employees is another excellent point - I know at least two other coworkers who've been subjected to the same screaming fits, so I should reach out to them about potential witness statements. Thank you for sharing your successful experience - it gives me hope that this process, while difficult, can actually work when you follow all these documented steps!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm currently dealing with a similar situation where my supervisor has been creating such a toxic environment that I've started having physical symptoms just thinking about going to work. What really resonates with me is how many people have mentioned the importance of medical documentation - I've been putting off seeing a doctor about my work-related anxiety, but reading everyone's experiences makes it clear that having that medical paper trail is crucial. One question for those who've successfully navigated this process: How detailed should the incident documentation be? I've been keeping notes, but I'm wondering if I should be more specific about exact quotes, body language, tone of voice, etc. Also, for anyone who's dealt with wage manipulation alongside the hostile environment - did you file the Labor Commissioner complaint before or after applying for EDD benefits? The advice about the "magic phrase" for resignation letters and preparing for the employer's counter-narrative has been eye-opening. It's clear that this process requires much more strategic planning than I initially realized. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and creating such a comprehensive resource - it's giving me the confidence to move forward with proper documentation instead of just suffering in silence.

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@Aaliyah, regarding your documentation questions - definitely be as detailed as possible! Include exact quotes when you can remember them, describe tone/body language, note who else was present, and record the time/location. I learned this the hard way when EDD asked for specifics during my phone interview and I could only give vague descriptions of some incidents. The more concrete details you have, the harder it is for your employer to dismiss or downplay what happened. For the Labor Commissioner complaint, I filed mine at the same time I applied for EDD benefits. Having both cases running simultaneously actually strengthened each other - the wage theft documentation supported my EDD claim about working conditions being intolerable, and the hostile environment evidence showed a pattern of illegal employer behavior for the Labor Commissioner. Just make sure to mention both complaints during your EDD interview so they understand the full scope of what you're dealing with. Don't put off seeing the doctor! That medical documentation could be the deciding factor in your case. When you go, be specific about how work is affecting you physically - "I have panic attacks every Sunday night thinking about Monday," "I've lost 10 pounds because I can't eat when I'm this anxious," etc. The more you can connect your symptoms directly to workplace stress, the stronger your case becomes. You're smart to be strategic about this instead of just quitting impulsively like I almost did. This thread has been a goldmine of practical advice that could save you months of appeals and denials!

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I'm so glad I found this thread - I've been dealing with almost the exact same situation for the past two months and felt completely alone and hopeless. Reading everyone's detailed experiences and advice has been incredibly validating and empowering. My manager has created such a toxic environment that I've started having panic attacks in my car before walking into the building. The verbal abuse, public humiliation, and what I now realize is wage theft (thanks to everyone pointing out the importance of that angle) has made my job unbearable. But I was terrified to quit without knowing if I'd qualify for benefits. The level of strategic planning required that everyone has outlined is honestly overwhelming, but also reassuring - it shows there IS a path forward if you do it right. I'm particularly grateful for @Malik's professional insights about the legal requirements and @StarGazer101's warnings about employer counter-claims. I never would have thought to gather positive performance reviews as evidence. I'm going to start implementing everyone's advice immediately: detailed incident logs with exact quotes and witnesses, medical documentation for my anxiety symptoms, formal written complaints to HR with specific remedies and deadlines, and gathering evidence of the wage discrepancies I've noticed. Thank you @Liam for having the courage to share your story and ask these questions. This community response has created an incredible resource that's giving me hope I can get through this situation. I'll update with my progress as I work through these steps!

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I'm a labor attorney who specializes in employment law, and I want to add some legal perspective to this excellent discussion. **California Labor Code Section 201.3** specifically addresses constructive discharge, which applies when working conditions become so intolerable that a reasonable person would feel compelled to resign. The key is proving that your employer either intended to force you to quit OR should have known their conduct would likely cause you to resign. A few critical legal points: **Documentation standards:** Courts look for contemporaneous records - meaning documentation created at or near the time of incidents. Your post-incident voice memos and daily logs are perfect for this. **Medical causation:** Having a healthcare provider explicitly state that your symptoms are "caused by or substantially aggravated by workplace conditions" is much stronger than general anxiety treatment. **Employer duty:** California employers have a legal obligation to maintain a workplace free from harassment and intimidation. When they fail this duty, it can constitute constructive discharge. **Wage theft connection:** Any unpaid wages, unauthorized deductions, or schedule manipulation that reduces your pay below minimum wage creates additional grounds for your claim. The "magic phrase" @Malik mentioned aligns with legal precedent - using language like "compelled to resign due to intolerable conditions" helps establish constructive discharge rather than voluntary quit. One addition: if you're in a protected class (age, race, gender, disability, etc.) and can show the abuse was related to that status, you may also have grounds for discrimination claims with DFEH, which strengthens your EDD case significantly. Best of luck - these cases are definitely winnable with proper preparation!

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@Ravi, thank you so much for providing the legal framework behind all the practical advice we've been sharing! Having the actual Labor Code section numbers and understanding the legal concept of "constructive discharge" makes me feel much more confident about my situation. Your point about contemporaneous records really validates everyone's advice about documenting incidents immediately - I've been worried my voice memos and daily logs might seem excessive, but knowing that courts specifically look for this type of real-time documentation is reassuring. The clarification about medical causation is especially helpful. I've been seeing a therapist for work-related anxiety, but I haven't specifically asked them to connect my symptoms to workplace conditions in their notes. I'm going to schedule an appointment this week and make sure they document that direct connection. I'm also realizing I might have additional grounds since I'm over 40 and the verbal abuse often includes comments about my age and experience level ("you should know better at your age," "maybe this job is too much for someone like you"). I hadn't connected this to potential age discrimination, but it might be worth exploring. The fact that a labor attorney is confirming these cases are "definitely winnable with proper preparation" gives me so much hope. This entire thread has transformed my understanding of what seemed like a hopeless situation into a systematic legal process with clear steps. Thank you for lending your expertise to help all of us navigate this!

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