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Carmen Lopez

Why did factory workers dread unemployment more than other industries?

I've been working in manufacturing for 15 years and just got laid off from Boeing due to production cuts. I'm realizing why older factory workers I knew always talked about unemployment like it was the worst thing that could happen. The benefits don't come close to replacing what we made with overtime, and there aren't many similar paying jobs around here. My Washington ESD claim got approved but the weekly amount is maybe 40% of what I was bringing home. Anyone else from manufacturing dealing with this? How do you make the math work?

Factory work is different because of the overtime culture. When you're used to 50-60 hour weeks, losing that OT pay hurts bad. UI only calculates based on your base wages.

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Exactly! I was pulling in almost $90k with all the overtime but my base was only $55k. The Washington ESD benefit calculation doesn't account for that.

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Same situation here. Lost my job at a paper mill and the benefits are maybe 35% of what I actually made with OT.

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The real issue is that factory jobs often have limited transferable skills to other industries. When a plant closes, everyone's competing for the same few remaining manufacturing jobs in the area.

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That's what scares me most. There's maybe 3-4 other manufacturing companies in this area and they're not hiring.

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Try expanding your search radius. I drove 45 minutes each way to my last factory job but it was worth it for the pay.

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Mei Lin

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How much does something like that cost? Money's already tight.

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Mei Lin

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Manufacturing workers also lose health insurance immediately usually, unlike some other jobs that give you COBRA continuation. That's a huge expense on top of the income loss.

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Yeah my insurance ended the day I got laid off. COBRA is like $800/month for my family which is almost half my unemployment benefit.

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Look into Apple Health (Medicaid) while you're unemployed. The income limits are higher now and it's free.

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Factory workers often have irregular schedules that make it harder to job search effectively. When you're used to shift work, adjusting to 9-5 interview schedules is tough too.

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Never thought about that but you're right. I worked swing shift for years and my sleep schedule is still messed up.

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Plus when you work 12-hour shifts you don't have time to network or look for other jobs while employed.

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The job search requirements from Washington ESD can be harder for manufacturing workers too. There just aren't as many relevant job postings to apply to each week.

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This is driving me crazy. I'm supposed to apply to 3 jobs per week but there's maybe 2-3 manufacturing jobs posted in the whole region.

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You can apply to related jobs like warehouse work or equipment maintenance. Washington ESD accepts those as suitable work for manufacturing experience.

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Been there. Factory workers dread unemployment because we know how physical the work is and how it gets harder as you age. Every layoff feels like it might be the one where you can't get back in.

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That's exactly it. I'm 52 and wondering if I'll ever find another job that pays this well without a college degree.

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Age discrimination is real in manufacturing. Companies want younger workers who can handle the physical demands.

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Union benefits make a difference too. When I was in a union we had supplemental unemployment benefits that helped bridge the gap. Non-union shops don't have that safety net.

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My place wasn't union. Just straight unemployment benefits and that's it.

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SUB pay was a lifesaver when our plant had temporary shutdowns. Made unemployment almost bearable.

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The psychological impact hits different when you're used to making things with your hands. Office workers don't understand that pride in physical work.

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Yes! There's something satisfying about seeing what you built at the end of a shift. Hard to explain to people who've never done it.

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My dad was a machinist for 30 years. When his shop closed he was never the same, even though he found other work.

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Another thing is factory workers often live paycheck to paycheck despite decent wages because the work feels unstable. No emergency fund when layoffs hit.

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Guilty as charged. Always felt like I needed to spend the overtime money while I had it because you never know when it'll dry up.

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Manufacturing is so boom and bust. Good times feel too good to be true because they usually are.

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If you need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about job search requirements or anything else, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier really works. I used it last month when I couldn't get through their phone system.

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Did they help you get answers about the job search rules? I'm confused about what counts as a suitable job application.

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Yeah, the agent explained which types of jobs count for my work history. Much clearer than trying to figure it out from their website.

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Small manufacturing towns are the worst. When the main employer shuts down, everyone's unemployed at once and competing for the same few service jobs.

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Thank god I'm in the Seattle area so there are other options, but still scary how fast things can change.

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I lived through a paper mill closure in a small town. Half the people moved away because there was literally nothing else.

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Training programs exist but they're usually way longer than unemployment lasts. Hard to commit to 2 years of school when you need income now.

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Washington ESD mentioned some training programs but they all seem to require giving up job searching which makes me nervous.

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Some programs let you keep collecting benefits while training. Worth asking about Trade Adjustment Assistance if your layoff was due to foreign competition.

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Seniority systems in factories mean older workers get hit hardest in layoffs. You spend decades building up seniority just to lose it all when the plant closes.

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15 years of seniority gone just like that. Starting over somewhere else feels impossible at my age.

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That's the cruelest part. All those years of loyalty to the company and you're just a number on a spreadsheet when times get tough.

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Manufacturing workers also deal with seasonal layoffs more than other industries. You get used to unemployment being a regular part of life, which is depressing.

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At least this seems like a permanent layoff so I can look for other work. Seasonal layoffs are torture because you can't really job hunt.

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Seasonal work made it impossible to plan financially. Never knew if the recall was coming or not.

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The skills gap is real too. Modern manufacturing requires more technical knowledge but older workers didn't get that training. Makes finding new factory jobs harder.

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Everything's computerized now compared to when I started. I can operate the old machines but struggle with the new automated systems.

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Community colleges have some good programs for learning modern manufacturing tech. Takes time but worth it.

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One more tip - if you're struggling to reach Washington ESD by phone about any claim issues, I had success with Claimyr too. They got me connected when I was stuck in adjudication limbo for weeks.

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Good to know there are options. The phone system at Washington ESD is absolutely brutal during busy times.

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Anything that helps avoid sitting on hold for 3 hours just to get disconnected is worth it in my book.

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Factory workers dread unemployment because we know it's not just a job - it's often the only path to middle class life without a degree. Losing that feels like losing everything.

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This hits hard. Manufacturing was my ticket to homeownership and supporting my family. Without it I don't know what other career path exists.

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Exactly. Service jobs don't pay enough to maintain the same standard of living. Manufacturing was one of the last good blue collar careers.

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