What is sub pay for unemployment in Washington ESD?
I'm trying to figure out what sub pay means when it comes to unemployment benefits. I've been hearing this term from other people at the WorkSource office but nobody seems to give me a clear answer. Does this affect my weekly benefit amount or my eligibility? I'm currently receiving regular UI benefits but wondering if there's some kind of substitute payment I should know about. Anyone familiar with this term?
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Sofia Price
Sub pay usually refers to substitute pay or supplemental unemployment benefits. In Washington, this could mean severance pay from your employer that might affect your unemployment timing, or it could refer to additional state benefits that supplement your regular UI. What's your specific situation - did you receive severance or are you asking about additional benefit programs?
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Mateo Warren
•I didn't get severance, just wondering if there are extra benefits I'm missing out on. My weekly amount seems lower than what I expected.
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Sofia Price
•Your weekly benefit amount is calculated based on your earnings in your base period. If you think it's incorrect, you can request a redetermination from Washington ESD.
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Alice Coleman
I think you might be confusing terms here. Washington ESD doesn't really use 'sub pay' as official terminology. You might be thinking of SUB plans (Supplemental Unemployment Benefits) which are employer-provided benefits that some union workers get on top of regular unemployment. Or you could be thinking about standby benefits if you're temporarily laid off but expecting to return to work.
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Mateo Warren
•That makes more sense. I'm not union so probably not the SUB plan thing. What's standby benefits?
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Alice Coleman
•Standby is when you're temporarily laid off but have a definite return-to-work date within 8 weeks. You don't have to do job searches but still file weekly claims.
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Owen Jenkins
Had the same confusion when I first started my claim. Turns out there's no 'sub pay' in the Washington ESD system. If you're having trouble reaching someone at Washington ESD to clarify your benefits, I used a service called Claimyr that helped me get through to an actual agent. They have a website at claimyr.com and there's even a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. Made it so much easier to get answers about my claim details.
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Mateo Warren
•Interesting, I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks without getting through. How does that service work exactly?
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Owen Jenkins
•It basically calls for you and waits in the queue, then connects you when an agent picks up. Saved me hours of sitting on hold trying to get clarification on my benefit amount.
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Lilah Brooks
Are you maybe thinking of partial unemployment benefits? That's when you're working part-time but still eligible for some unemployment compensation. A lot of people call it different things.
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Mateo Warren
•No, I'm not working at all right now. Just receiving regular unemployment benefits.
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Jackson Carter
•Could also be thinking of the additional federal benefits that used to exist during COVID, but those ended in 2021.
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Kolton Murphy
honestly ive never heard washington esd use the term sub pay either. might be something specific to other states? or maybe someone at worksource was using slang?
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Mateo Warren
•Yeah that's what I'm starting to think. Probably just local slang or something.
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Sofia Price
To clarify the official Washington ESD benefit types: Regular UI (unemployment insurance), Partial UI (working part-time), Standby (temporary layoff), and SharedWork (reduced hours program). There's no program called 'sub pay' but you might qualify for additional benefits if your situation fits one of these other categories.
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Evelyn Rivera
•Don't forget about Extended Benefits that sometimes kick in during high unemployment periods, though those aren't active right now in Washington.
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Mateo Warren
•This is really helpful. I think I was just confused by terminology someone used. My regular UI seems to be processing normally.
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Julia Hall
I work at a credit union and we see this confusion a lot. People sometimes call direct deposit unemployment payments 'sub pay' because it shows up differently on their bank statements than regular paychecks. Could that be what you're referring to?
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Mateo Warren
•That might be it! My unemployment deposits do show up with different coding than my old paychecks.
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Julia Hall
•Yeah, unemployment benefits have different ACH codes and descriptions. Totally normal and doesn't affect the amount you receive.
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Arjun Patel
Just want to add that if you're having issues understanding any part of your Washington ESD claim, calling them directly is usually the best approach. I know the phone lines are crazy busy, but that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier actually worked for me too when I needed to talk to someone about my adjudication status.
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Jade Lopez
•How long did it take to get through with that service?
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Arjun Patel
•Took about 2 hours but I didn't have to sit there holding the phone. It called me back when an agent was available.
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Tony Brooks
The Washington ESD customer service is THE WORST. I've been trying to get through for three weeks about my claim being stuck in adjudication and can never reach anyone.
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Ella rollingthunder87
•Have you tried calling right when they open at 8am? Sometimes that's the best time.
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Tony Brooks
•Yeah tried that too. Phone system just hangs up on me after being on hold for an hour.
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Owen Jenkins
•That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr. The regular phone system was impossible.
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Yara Campbell
OP - just to summarize what everyone's saying: there's no official 'sub pay' program in Washington unemployment. You're probably thinking of one of the legitimate programs like partial benefits, standby status, or just misheard someone talking about supplemental benefits (which would be employer-provided, not from Washington ESD).
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Mateo Warren
•Perfect summary, thank you! I think I was just getting confused by different terminology people were using.
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Isaac Wright
•Yeah the unemployment system has so much jargon it's easy to get mixed up on what's official and what's just casual language.
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Maya Diaz
I had a similar question when I first filed. Turns out I was overthinking it - my regular UI benefits were processing fine and I didn't need any additional programs. Sometimes we assume there's more to the system than there actually is.
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Mateo Warren
•That's probably exactly what happened to me. My benefits seem to be coming through normally so I'm probably good.
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Tami Morgan
For what it's worth, if you ever need to verify details about your specific claim or benefit amount, the Washington ESD website has most of the info in your online account. But yeah, sometimes you need to talk to an actual person to get clarity.
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Rami Samuels
•The online account is pretty good for basic info but doesn't always explain why certain decisions were made.
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Mateo Warren
•Good point. I should check my online account more thoroughly before assuming I'm missing something.
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Haley Bennett
This thread is super helpful! I was also confused about some unemployment terminology. Glad to know I'm not the only one who gets mixed up by all the different terms people use.
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Douglas Foster
•Right? There's so much unofficial slang mixed in with the official terms that it gets confusing fast.
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