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Ayla Kumar

What does wages lieu of notice mean for Washington ESD unemployment claim?

I got laid off last month and when I filed my unemployment claim, Washington ESD asked about 'wages in lieu of notice' on the application. My employer gave me 2 weeks pay instead of requiring me to work a notice period, but I'm not sure how to answer this question. Does this affect my claim eligibility or benefit amount? I'm worried I might mess something up if I answer wrong.

Wages in lieu of notice is basically severance pay that replaces your notice period. You need to report this to Washington ESD because it can affect when your benefits start. If you received pay for weeks you didn't work, those weeks might be considered 'disqualifying' weeks where you can't collect UI.

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So I should report the 2 weeks pay I got? Will this delay my benefits by 2 weeks then?

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Yes, report it. Washington ESD will determine if it creates a waiting period based on the amount and your weekly benefit calculation.

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I had the same situation last year. You definitely need to report any severance or pay in lieu of notice on your initial claim. Washington ESD will calculate if this creates a 'disqualifying period' where you can't receive benefits. The formula is based on your weekly benefit amount - if the severance covers more than your weekly benefit, you'll have to wait.

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This is so confusing! Why do they make it so complicated? I just need help paying rent while I look for work.

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I know it's frustrating, but the system is designed to prevent double-dipping. You can't collect unemployment for weeks you were already paid for, even if you weren't working.

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wait so if I got 4 weeks severance I have to wait 4 weeks before I can file for unemployment?? that doesn't seem right

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Not necessarily 4 weeks. Washington ESD calculates it based on your weekly benefit amount. If your severance is $2000 and your weekly benefit would be $500, then yes, you'd wait 4 weeks. But if your benefit is $200, you'd wait 10 weeks.

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omg that's even worse! how am I supposed to know my weekly benefit amount before I file?

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You can file your claim right away - Washington ESD will do the calculations. The important thing is to be honest about all payments received from your employer. Don't try to hide severance or wages in lieu of notice because they'll find out anyway when they verify your employment.

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How do they verify employment? Do they contact employers directly?

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Yes, Washington ESD sends separation notices to employers who have to respond with details about your termination, including any final payments.

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The whole system is rigged against workers. You lose your job through no fault of your own, then they penalize you for receiving a tiny bit of severance. Meanwhile rich people get bailouts left and right.

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I mean I get the frustration but the rule makes sense - you can't get paid twice for the same time period

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Easy to say when you're not the one struggling to pay bills while waiting for bureaucrats to sort things out

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Xan Dae

Pro tip: When you report wages in lieu of notice, make sure you have the exact dates and amounts. Washington ESD gets picky about details and any discrepancies can trigger an adjudication review which adds weeks to your claim processing.

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What kind of documentation should I have ready? I have my final paystub but is that enough?

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Xan Dae

Final paystub is good, but also keep any letters or emails from HR explaining the severance package. Sometimes Washington ESD wants to see the employer's explanation of what the payment covers.

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Just went through this exact situation 2 months ago. Got 3 weeks pay in lieu of notice and had to wait 3 weeks before my benefits started. The waiting period begins from your last day of work, not from when you file your claim. So file ASAP even if you know you'll have a waiting period.

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Did you still have to file weekly claims during the waiting period?

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Yes! You have to keep filing weekly claims even during disqualifying weeks or you'll lose your place in line. Washington ESD is very strict about this.

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Another thing to watch out for - if your employer calls it 'severance' but it's really just pay for your notice period, make sure Washington ESD understands what it actually is. The terminology matters for how they calculate the waiting period.

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How can you tell the difference? My HR department was pretty vague about what they called my final payment.

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Usually wages in lieu of notice covers specific weeks (like 'we're paying you for the next 2 weeks instead of having you work'). Regular severance is more like a lump sum based on years of service.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already strapped for cash after losing my job.

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The key thing is don't panic if you have a disqualifying period. Your benefits will eventually start, and you can still look for work during the waiting period. Just keep filing your weekly claims and meeting job search requirements.

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Good to know. I was worried this might disqualify me completely from getting unemployment.

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Nope, wages in lieu of notice just delays benefits, it doesn't disqualify you permanently. As long as you were laid off for non-disciplinary reasons, you'll get benefits once the waiting period is over.

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Also make sure you understand Washington ESD's job search requirements during any waiting period. You still need to be actively seeking work and keeping records even if you're not receiving benefits yet.

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Wait, you have to do job searches even when you're not getting paid? That seems excessive.

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Yes, the job search requirement continues throughout your entire claim period, including any waiting periods. You need to be 'able and available' for work to maintain eligibility.

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Been dealing with this for weeks now. My employer gave me 6 weeks severance and Washington ESD calculated a 8 week waiting period based on my benefit amount. Finally got through to someone who explained that the waiting period can be longer than the actual severance if your weekly benefit is low.

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That's brutal. Did they at least backdate your claim to when you first became unemployed?

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Yes, the claim is backdated to my separation date, but I still can't collect anything during the disqualifying weeks. The math is really frustrating when you're trying to budget.

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For anyone still confused about this, Washington ESD has a worksheet that helps calculate disqualifying income. It's not just wages in lieu of notice - vacation payouts, unused sick time, and other final payments can also create waiting periods. Be thorough when reporting.

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Where do you find this worksheet? I got several different types of final pay and I'm not sure which ones count.

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It should be on the Washington ESD website under forms and publications. Search for 'disqualifying income' or 'separation pay'. When in doubt, report everything and let them sort it out.

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One more tip - if you disagree with Washington ESD's calculation of your disqualifying period, you can appeal their determination. Sometimes they make mistakes or misunderstand the nature of your final payments. Don't just accept it if something seems wrong.

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How long do you have to file an appeal? And is it complicated?

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You typically have 30 days from the determination notice to appeal. The process isn't too bad if you have good documentation about what your employer actually paid you and why.

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Just want to add that if you're really struggling to get answers about this stuff, that Claimyr service mentioned earlier actually worked for me too. I was going in circles trying to understand how my severance affected my claim timing. Got connected to an agent who walked through the whole calculation with me.

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Good to hear another success story. The regular phone system is basically useless for anything complicated.

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Exactly. Sometimes you need to actually talk to someone who can look at your specific case rather than trying to figure it out from generic information online.

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Bottom line - be honest about all final payments from your employer, keep good records, and don't be discouraged if you have a waiting period. Your benefits will start eventually and you can usually get through the process if you stay on top of your weekly filings.

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Ev Luca

Thanks for all the helpful info everyone. This thread answered a lot of questions I didn't even know I had.

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Agreed! I feel much more confident about handling this correctly now. Appreciate everyone taking the time to explain things.

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This is such valuable information! I'm in a similar situation where I received 3 weeks of pay in lieu of notice and was completely confused about how to report it. Reading through everyone's experiences really helps clarify that I need to be upfront about it even though it might delay my benefits. It's frustrating that the system works this way, but at least now I understand the logic behind it. Going to make sure I have all my documentation ready before I complete my application. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Welcome to the club! I went through the exact same confusion when I first got laid off. One thing I learned the hard way is to also keep copies of any emails or letters from HR explaining the payment - Washington ESD sometimes wants to see the employer's exact wording about what the payment covers. Also, don't stress too much about the delay - I know it's tough when you need the money, but the benefits will come eventually and at least you're being honest from the start rather than having to deal with overpayment issues later.

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