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Abigail Spencer

What disqualifies you from unemployment in Washington - confused about eligibility

Just got laid off from my warehouse job last week and I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I've been reading conflicting information online about what can disqualify you. I quit a previous job about 8 months ago because my supervisor was being hostile, but I worked at this warehouse job for 6 months before getting laid off. Will quitting that earlier job affect my current claim? Also worried because I got written up once for being late. Can someone explain what actually disqualifies you from getting UI benefits in Washington?

The main disqualifications in Washington are: being fired for misconduct, quitting without good cause, refusing suitable work, and not meeting work search requirements. Attendance issues can be tricky - it depends if Washington ESD considers it misconduct or just poor performance. The job offer you turned down could be an issue if it was considered 'suitable work' based on your previous wages and experience.

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How do they define 'suitable work'? The job I turned down was about $8/hour less than my previous job and in a completely different field.

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Generally suitable work means comparable wages (usually within 80% of your previous earnings after the first few weeks), similar skills, and reasonable commute distance. $8/hour less might not be considered suitable depending on your wage level.

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dont stress too much about the attendance thing unless you were like constantly no-showing or something really bad. i had attendance issues at my last job too and still got approved. the job offer thing is more concerning though

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It wasn't no-shows, more like being consistently 10-15 minutes late because of bus issues. But I did get written up for it a few times.

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yeah that might not be misconduct then, more like performance issues. misconduct has to be willful usually

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The main disqualifications in Washington are: getting fired for misconduct, quitting without good cause, refusing suitable work, not being able and available for work, or not meeting the job search requirements. Since you were laid off from your most recent job, that shouldn't disqualify you. The quit from 8 months ago might affect your benefit calculation but probably won't disqualify you entirely.

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That's a relief about the layoff. Do you know how they determine if a quit was for 'good cause'? My old supervisor was really making work miserable.

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Good cause includes things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, discrimination, or significant changes to your job. Hostile supervisor could qualify if you can document it.

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Is that service legit? I've never heard of it before but I'm desperate to talk to someone at Washington ESD.

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Here are the main Washington ESD disqualifications you should know about: 1. MISCONDUCT - This includes things like stealing, fighting, harassment, or willful violation of company policy 2. VOLUNTARY QUIT - Leaving without good cause (though there are exceptions for unsafe conditions, harassment, etc.) 3. REFUSING SUITABLE WORK - Turning down job offers that match your qualifications and pay reasonably 4. NOT ABLE/AVAILABLE - Not being physically able to work or not available for full-time work 5. WORK SEARCH FAILURE - Not meeting the required job search activities Your attendance issues sound more like performance than misconduct unless you were deliberately being late or ignoring warnings.

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This is really helpful! For the work search requirements, how many jobs do you have to apply to each week?

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You need to complete 3 job search activities per week, which can include applications, networking, job fairs, etc. You have to keep a detailed log in your WorkSourceWA account.

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wait i thought it was 5 job searches per week? or did that change?

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It's 3 activities per week as of 2025. It used to be higher during the pandemic recovery period but they reduced it.

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The system is so confusing and they make it seem like EVERYTHING disqualifies you. I was terrified to apply because I thought having any negative feedback at work would automatically disqualify me. Turns out most of my worries were unfounded.

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That's exactly how I feel! They make it sound so scary in all the documentation.

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Right? Like they want you to be afraid to apply. Most people who think they'll be disqualified actually aren't.

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Getting written up once for being late won't disqualify you unless it was part of a pattern that led to termination for misconduct. Washington ESD looks at the reason for separation from your most recent job. If you were laid off due to lack of work, you should be eligible.

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Good to know! The layoff was definitely due to reduced orders, not performance issues.

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Same thing happened to me last year - one write-up didn't matter when I got laid off later.

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I got disqualified initially for 'misconduct' because I was fired for being late too many times. But I appealed it and won because I was able to show it was due to unreliable public transportation and not willful misconduct. The appeals process is actually pretty fair if you have documentation.

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How long did the appeal take? And what kind of documentation did you need?

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Took about 6 weeks total. I provided bus schedules, records of route delays, and my work attendance records showing I was trying to improve. Also had my supervisor's written warnings to show they knew about the transportation issues.

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thats actually really encouraging to hear. i always thought appeals were hopeless

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How does that work exactly? Do they just keep calling until someone picks up?

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Basically yeah - they handle all the calling and waiting, then connect you when they get an agent on the line. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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That sounds too good to be true. What's the catch?

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WASHINGTON ESD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH!!! I've been trying to get answers about my disqualification for WEEKS. The phone system just hangs up on you after an hour of waiting. This is ridiculous.

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I know it's frustrating, but keep trying. Early morning calls (right at 8am) sometimes work better.

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I've tried every time slot imaginable. The system is broken.

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The real trick is understanding that Washington ESD has to PROVE misconduct, not just show that you were fired. Being a mediocre employee isn't misconduct. Even being a bad employee usually isn't misconduct unless it's willful or criminal.

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So if I was just consistently late but not on purpose, that probably wouldn't count as misconduct?

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Exactly. Misconduct requires intent or willful disregard. Transportation issues, personal problems, or just being slow/forgetful usually don't qualify.

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Here are the specific disqualification reasons Washington ESD uses: 1) Discharge for misconduct connected with work, 2) Voluntary quit without good cause, 3) Refusal of suitable work without good cause, 4) Not able and available for work, 5) Failure to register for work or participate in reemployment services. There are also issues like benefit year earnings requirements and base period wages.

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What counts as 'suitable work'? Do I have to take any job offer?

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Suitable work considers your skills, experience, prior wages, and commuting distance. You don't have to take just anything, but the standards get less strict over time.

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How long before they expect you to take lower-paying work?

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whatever you do DONT lie on your application. they will find out and that will definitely disqualify you. be honest about why you were fired and let them make the determination

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Good point. I was thinking about just saying I was laid off but that's not true.

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yeah dont do that. they can contact your employer and verify everything. honesty is your best bet

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I got disqualified because they said I was fired for misconduct, but really I just made an honest mistake with inventory. Fighting it through the appeal process now. It's been 2 months and still waiting for a hearing date.

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That sounds awful. How do you prove it wasn't misconduct?

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Gathering any documentation that shows it was an accident or that the company policy wasn't clear. Also getting witness statements from coworkers.

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I see a lot of people worry about drug tests too. Washington ESD doesn't randomly drug test unemployment recipients unless you're in a program that specifically requires it. That's another common misconception.

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Really? I thought all unemployment recipients had to pass drug tests now.

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Nope, that's not true in Washington. Only specific programs like some job training initiatives might require it.

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drug testing can also disqualify you if you fail or refuse to take one that's required for suitable work. Also if you're not a US citizen or don't have work authorization.

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I'm a citizen so that's not an issue. Didn't know about the drug testing thing though.

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The drug testing only applies if it's required for a specific job offer, not random testing for benefits.

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Just to follow up on my earlier comment about Claimyr - if you do end up needing to talk to Washington ESD about your specific situation, that service really does work. I wasted so much time trying to call the regular way before I found it. Sometimes getting a real person on the phone is the only way to get clarity on these eligibility questions.

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How much does it cost though? I'm already broke waiting for unemployment benefits.

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I'd rather not get into specific pricing here, but it was worth it for me to get answers instead of worrying for weeks. Check their website for current rates.

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The bottom line is that most people who are worried about disqualification actually qualify. Washington ESD has to prove their case for misconduct or voluntary quit. Your situation with attendance due to transportation sounds like it would qualify, especially if you can document the bus issues.

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This thread has been so helpful. I think I'm going to go ahead and apply and see what happens.

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Good! The worst thing that can happen is they say no, and then you can appeal if you disagree. But chances are you'll be approved.

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Just remember to keep detailed records of your job search activities once you start claiming. That's where a lot of people mess up and lose benefits later.

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What exactly do I need to track for job search activities?

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Company name, position applied for, date, method of contact, and any follow-up. Keep it all in your WorkSourceWA account.

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i was disqualified for quitting but it was because my boss was sexually harassing me. i appealed and got approved because that counts as good cause. so even if you quit sometimes you can still get benefits

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I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm glad you were able to get it overturned though.

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thanks. just wanted people to know that quitting doesn't always disqualify you if you have good reason

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The Washington ESD adjudication process is actually pretty thorough. They'll contact your employer and sometimes even interview coworkers if needed. It's not just an automatic denial if there are issues.

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How long does adjudication usually take?

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Depends on the complexity but usually 2-4 weeks. Sometimes longer if they need to do multiple interviews or gather lots of documentation.

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My advice is just apply and answer all questions honestly. If they deny you, you'll get a letter explaining exactly why and you can decide if you want to appeal. Most people get approved even with some work history issues.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. I feel much more confident about applying now.

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You're welcome! Hope it works out for you. The waiting is the hardest part but most people do get approved.

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Don't forget about the work search requirements! You have to be actively looking for work and keep a log. Not doing job searches can get your benefits stopped even if you were initially eligible.

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How many job applications do you need to do per week?

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It's 3 job search activities per week in Washington. Can be applications, networking, interviews, etc.

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Make sure you're documenting everything properly in WorkSourceWA too.

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I've heard that if you move out of state you can lose benefits? Is that true or just a rumor?

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Moving out of state doesn't automatically disqualify you, but you still need to meet all the requirements including being available for work in your new location.

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You have to notify Washington ESD if you move and they'll determine if you can continue receiving benefits.

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What about if you're going to school? I want to use my unemployment time to get some training but heard that might disqualify me.

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Going to school can affect your benefits because you need to be available for work. But there are approved training programs that allow you to keep benefits.

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How do you find out which training programs are approved?

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WorkSourceWA has a list of approved training providers. You usually need to get permission before starting.

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Age discrimination got me fired at 58 and the company is claiming it was performance issues. Washington ESD initially denied my claim but I'm appealing. Anyone else dealt with this kind of situation?

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Similar situation here. Document everything and consider filing a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission too.

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The appeal process can take forever but don't give up. I won mine after 4 months.

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Can they disqualify you for not accepting overtime? My employer wanted me to work 7 days a week and I said no, then they let me go.

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Refusing excessive overtime that creates unsafe or unreasonable working conditions could be considered good cause. Depends on the specific circumstances.

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It was definitely affecting my health working that much. Hopefully that helps my case.

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The Claimyr service mentioned earlier really does work. I was skeptical but finally tried it after weeks of not being able to get through to Washington ESD. Got connected to an agent within an hour and sorted out my adjudication issue. Worth checking out their demo video if you're struggling with the phone lines.

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Might have to try this. I'm desperate at this point.

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How much does it cost though? Seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to reach ESD.

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You're right that we shouldn't have to, but when you need answers and can't get through any other way, sometimes you have to be practical.

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Don't forget about fraud issues - if Washington ESD thinks you lied on your application or didn't report income properly, that's an automatic disqualification plus penalties.

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That's scary. What if you make an honest mistake on reporting?

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They usually look at intent. Honest mistakes can often be corrected, but you need to report them as soon as you realize the error.

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self employment while on unemployment can be tricky too. You can do some freelance work but there are limits on how much you can earn before it affects your benefits.

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What's the limit? I've been thinking about doing some Uber driving while looking for full-time work.

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You need to report all earnings and they'll reduce your benefits accordingly. Better to check with ESD about specific situations like rideshare driving.

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Military discharge status can affect eligibility too, but that's pretty specialized. Most people don't need to worry about that one.

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Good point. Veterans have different rules and sometimes better benefits available.

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The key thing is being honest on your application and continuing claims. Washington ESD will investigate if something seems off, and it's better to explain complicated situations upfront than have them discover issues later.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information. I feel much more confident about filing my claim now.

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Good luck with your claim! Based on what you described, it sounds like you should be eligible.

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One more thing - if you do get disqualified, don't just accept it. You have 30 days to appeal and many disqualifications get overturned if you can provide the right documentation.

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Exactly! I got my disqualification reversed on appeal. The initial determination isn't always right.

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The appeal process is intimidating but worth it if you believe the decision was wrong.

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Just remember that even if you had issues at previous jobs, what matters most is your most recent separation. Being laid off should make you eligible regardless of past job history in most cases.

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That's really reassuring. I was worried the quit from months ago would ruin everything.

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The base period calculation might be affected but you should still qualify for benefits based on the layoff.

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Bottom line - apply for benefits and let Washington ESD make the determination. Don't assume you're disqualified. Even complicated situations sometimes qualify, and you won't know until you try.

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You're right. I'm going to file tomorrow morning. Thanks everyone for all the advice!

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Good luck! Hope it goes smoothly for you.

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